DRK Consolidated Feedback Thread

[Jandor]

Bloodspiller doesn't quite ignore the Grit penalty. <snip> In short, you lose 5 potency for using the baseline ability in Grit and gain 2 potency for using DA Bloodspiller in Grit. You also gain 35 potency every time you apply DA to it in Grit. The reason for this weirdness is because they buffed the Bloodspiller potency by 20 while leaving the Grit potency unchanged.

Yeah, I know at the moment the potencies vary slightly. What I was trying to suggest and probably worded rather poorly, is that all that seems a bit pointless and Bloodspiller should just be a high potency ability, DA Bloodspiller even higher potency, and Grit shouldn't make any difference either way.
I don't get the purpose of the way it currently is, do they not want you using it when you're not currently MT?

[SyzzleSpark]

I don't get the purpose of the way it currently is, do they not want you using it when you're not currently MT?

It really begs the question doesn't it?

Bloodspiller by the numbers greatly indicates that we shouldn't feel bad about using it whenever we can regardless of Grit/no-Grit. However, only in Grit is it a well-defined, indisputable gain, and the same goes for TBN. Using TBN to proc it in Grit is most certainly good for your DPS (or rather, as good as it can be considering you're in Grit). The balancing of resources in Grit is actually much better designed than it is out of Grit. Blood Price+Syphon Strike is a problem for some people, but I personally am not bothered by it and I really hope we see some other changes before we see that touched. The bottom line is that while you're in Grit, optimal use of ALL of your tools as dictated by context is rewarded, at least as much as you can be whilst suffering a -20% damage penalty.

Out of Grit however, all of this goes in the toilet.

For one thing, in order to proc TBN Blood, you put a significantly weaker, arguably inconsequential shield on your co-tank or perhaps another party member targeted for a mechanic. Secondly, when this shield breaks, the Blood you get is a DPS loss unless it is being spent on Delirium (in a situation wherein you would not have had the blood to use it, which almost never comes up as Blood Weapon usually generates plenty, and when you hit Delirium during Blood Weapon doesn't matter, so long as it lands somewhere in that window), or unless Bloodspiller edges out a Hard Slash and not a Syphon or Souleater.

So basically, TBN cast on anyone but yourself is inconsequential from a utility/mitigation standpoint, and the Blood it provides is NOT a DPS gain. You could easily have spent that mana on another DA and done, for all intents and purposes, identical damage.

So its not wholly incorrect to say that there is no incentive to use TBN, or a Bloodspiller proc'ed by TBN outside of Grit while off-tanking. Needless to say this is stupid and should be fixed. Outside of seeing Bloodspiller's lovely animation more frequently, its just not there.

[kashi11]

What if one of these happened:

Bloodspiller: oGCD 3s recast.

Or

Bloodspiller: reduced blood cost to 25.

Or

TBN now grants DA upon shield breaking :

Or

TBN has half it's current MP cost.

Or

TBN recast shortened to 5s

[347SPECTRE]

What if one of these happened:

Bloodspiller: oGCD 3s recast.

Or

Bloodspiller: reduced blood cost to 25.

Or

TBN now grants DA upon shield breaking :

Or

TBN has half it's current MP cost.

Or

TBN recast shortened to 5s

Still doesnt help the fact we dont even get a full deck until level cap, making DRK feel hollow pre-70.