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    Player
    Deathshiro's Avatar
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    Shiro Falh
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Riparino DRK buffs, they might still happen in 4.2..... but I guess 5.x is more likely at this point.
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    SyzzleSpark's Avatar
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    Pixiline Paradigm
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    Sargatanas
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    Summoner Lv 66
    Its pretty hopeless at this point. People are already coming onto this forum in droves and grossly parodying and misrepresenting our feedback in light of the WF clear. The growing counterpoint to our feedback is "omg, look at all these DRK QQ threads, and they were WF, they must just be butthurt that their job isn't 100% OP in every sense of the word, every syllable of all of these feedback threads is hereby invalid, LOL."

    Idk about you guys but I don't think I can continue trying to get SE's attention, while also combating that level of ignorance.
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    Gojin's Avatar
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    Infini Fiasco
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    Cactuar
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    Summoner Lv 70
    dark knight is fine,do you guys even play dark knight seriously?
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    Jade Nixx
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gojin View Post
    dark knight is fine,do you guys even play dark knight seriously?
    There's at least a month of high-volume feedback outlining numerous, severe balance issues on this forum and not a word of it is changed by one team on one fight bringing DRK to an encounter that was not being gated by tank performance in the first place.
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    SplittingSkies's Avatar
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    Lynx Shadowstorm
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    Moogle
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    I haven't been watching much Ultimate prog/clear streams of late but some seem to be under the impression that Dysnomia's DRK invul'ed most of the busters in that fight. Not ignoring that Crater also mentioned in another thread that the last phase of that fight is so magic heavy that DRKs thrive there because of Dark mind. Funny enough now people are starting a "RIP DRK buffs" trend but I honestly don't see us not getting any buffs even if a DRK got WF.
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    CallusFrompt's Avatar
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    Callus Frompt
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    Diabolos
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by SplittingSkies View Post
    I haven't been watching much Ultimate prog/clear streams of late but some seem to be under the impression that Dysnomia's DRK invul'ed most of the busters in that fight. Not ignoring that Crater also mentioned in another thread that the last phase of that fight is so magic heavy that DRKs thrive there because of Dark mind. Funny enough now people are starting a "RIP DRK buffs" trend but I honestly don't see us not getting any buffs even if a DRK got WF.
    this might just be my inner "wide eyed idealist" talking but maybe they'll look at the classes that cleared what is probably the hardest fight in the game, see what feedback that's been going on (and there's plenty of that) and maybe make adjustments? I know it's a long shot and it might lead to nerfs but an edgelord can dream...
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    Mycow8me's Avatar
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    Tolby Seyfert
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    Cactuar
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    Blacksmith Lv 70
    Like I've stated before, I would be fine with some kind of fix for the double weaving issues, anything else is just a bonus. Even the best players have troubles doubleweaving with bloodweapon I would think. I don't generally think dark is terrible but it is alot easier to perform on warrior from what i've seen playing them side by side.
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    SyzzleSpark's Avatar
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    Pixiline Paradigm
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    Sargatanas
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    Summoner Lv 66
    Mr. Happy just put out a video that will probably further screw us over.

    Basically "meta doesn't matter" and "anyone suggesting DRK has problems is obsessed with the meta" have been the primary take-aways people have had in the comments.
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    Shao Kuraisenshi
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    Ragnarok
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SyzzleSpark View Post
    Mr. Happy just put out a video that will probably further screw us over.

    Basically "meta doesn't matter" and "anyone suggesting DRK has problems is obsessed with the meta" have been the primary take-aways people have had in the comments.
    What? Really? how anyone can say we are obsessed when we are the worst on everything? How ppl can be so blind and dont see we want a fair balance?

    Quote Originally Posted by SyzzleSpark View Post
    snip
    yeah was sleepy and i missread it, sorry.
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    Last edited by shao32; 11-06-2017 at 12:54 AM.

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    Sargatanas
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    Summoner Lv 66
    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    What? Really? I never followed Mr. Happy but just for this i dont want know nothing about hem never, how anyone can say we are obsessed when we are the worst on everything? How ppl can be so blind and dont see we want a fair balance?
    He got lambasted by casuals in his tank vs. video for saying DRK has problems.

    He didn't exactly say those things, but that is what people are interpreting it as, from the looks of it, and the way his commentary in the video was laid out, its pretty much a "shh.. its okay..." to all the people offended that he put DRK where it is in his tank vs. video: in 3rd place, and at no time did he clarify anything along the lines of "to be clear, even though DRK is viable and is completely able to clear content, even WF Ultimate, it still has problems."

    Casuals are turning out to be a worse enemy of progress towards DRK changes than a meta of any kind.
    Apparently people can't handle the idea that the job they find fun in 4-mans and fates is anything less than perfect, and any suggestion that it could be improved upon or that it is subpar compared to its alternatives triggers the living hell out of them.

    So then WF happen and they lambasted him some more about it and I guess he was forced to bend the knee. Oh well.
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    Last edited by SyzzleSpark; 11-05-2017 at 04:59 PM.

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