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    SyzzleSpark's Avatar
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    Pixiline Paradigm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mycow8me View Post
    Well one way of looking at it bros... PLD got 4.0'd War got 4.1'd... Maybe drk is 4.2'd. One can only hope they are working on us this time. Pray to whatever god you believe in that we dont have to wait till 5.0 to make DRK great again.
    These kinds of buffs need to come in partial patches i.e. 4.15. Waiting for 4.2 pretty much rules out use of DRK in Ultimate, if it truly is as hard as they say, groups will want every last molecule of party mitgation and DPS they can get, and PLD/WAR is the comp that brings it. Too much happens in a patch for that.

    Also I'd argue WAR got some pretty significant buffs/fixes (depending on your perspective) prior to 4.1 so perhaps there is hope that 4.2 isn't the waiting period.
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    WhyAmIHere's Avatar
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    Mute Shellback
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    I mean, Yoshi did say "wait til raid," and we did. Maybe it wasn't the right one though.
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    Shinryu is a good fight, and is an opportunity to use Dark Mind. But there are so many better uses for WAR and PLD to shine with their group mitigation tools and overall higher DPS.

    Yoshi did say wait until 4.1 for the additional changes but I think he was only talking about WAR since WAR did need some fixes.

    But that leaves us back to unbalanced tank jobs.
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    Khirrika Moshroca
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    Maybe we would get a response if we went to all the main cities and cast Salted Earth around the aetherytes.
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    Strea Leonhart
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    Quote Originally Posted by 347SPECTRE View Post
    Maybe we would get a response if we went to all the main cities and cast Salted Earth around the aetherytes.
    Doubt it...
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    The only way we will possibly get a response is to keep threads like this going. It hasn't been too effective so far, but giving up and shutting up DEFINITELY will not get a response.
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    The thing with these devs is if you want a response they only look at statistics. The devs here just can't be bothered to feasibly communicate with their community on the official forums they made. Sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    The thing with these devs is if you want a response they only look at statistics. The devs here just can't be bothered to feasibly communicate with their community on the official forums they made. Sad.
    Well if they're looking at statistics we're in luck because the statistics show us being in the gutter. Hell you could make a whole thread breaking down the statistics from 4.0's launch to now. I never wrote anything down, but I remember looking through fflogs for the exact moment at which WAR started surpassing DRK in usage, and I believe it was around the first week of August? DRK started out being used more than WAR, but was never far ahead, but maintained its lead up until late August. This was looking at 2-week intervals snapshotted from individual days, i.e August 15th and the preceding 2 weeks, August 16th and the preceding 2 weeks, and so on. At that point not only did WAR continue to in usage but DRK usage also saw a marked downward turn. Both were seeing about 20K+ parse uploads, and WAR continued to trend upwards of that, and DRK fell to about 18K over the next few 2-week intervals.

    Just dipping through the forum pages, the last few weeks of July and into August was where we saw the biggest surplus of WAR feedback threads and replies on them. IDK, make of this what you will. Fix DRK SE.

    For Omega Savage... Here is the period where people started using WAR more:
    Warrior Aug 21 - Sep 4 65.3 68.7 24,690
    Warrior Aug 20 - Sep 3 65.2 68.5 24,422
    Warrior Aug 19 - Sep 2 65.1 68.5 24,252
    Warrior Aug 18 - Sep 1 65.0 68.4 24,166
    Warrior Aug 17 - Aug 31 64.9 67.8 23,988
    Dark Knight Aug 21 - Sep 4 62.2 65.2 24,345
    Dark Knight Aug 20 - Sep 3 62.2 65.2 24,215
    Dark Knight Aug 19 - Sep 2 62.1 65.2 24,235
    Dark Knight Aug 18 - Sep 1 62.2 65.2 24,201
    Dark Knight Aug 17 - Aug 31 62.1 64.9 24,199

    And leading up to the patch...
    Warrior Sep 30 - Oct 14 66.6 70.9 25,408
    Warrior Sep 29 - Oct 13 66.8 70.9 25,594
    Warrior Sep 28 - Oct 12 67.0 70.2 25,729
    Warrior Sep 27 - Oct 11 66.9 69.9 25,882
    Dark Knight Sep 30 - Oct 14 61.9 65.5 19,281
    Dark Knight Sep 29 - Oct 13 62.1 65.5 19,441
    Dark Knight Sep 28 - Oct 12 62.2 65.1 19,506
    Dark Knight Sep 27 - Oct 11 62.4 64.9 19,934
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    Last edited by SyzzleSpark; 10-16-2017 at 11:49 PM.

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    Letho Orwyth
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    The thing with these devs is if you want a response they only look at statistics. The devs here just can't be bothered to feasibly communicate with their community on the official forums they made. Sad.
    Not so sure about that, we've got this ignored neat and tidy package of feedback compared to front pages being spammed with little complexity other than being upset. Seems like recognition is only out of a necessary response to outrage, the devs feel more like they fix things as a PR move than anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalocin View Post
    Not so sure about that, we've got this ignored neat and tidy package of feedback compared to front pages being spammed with little complexity other than being upset. Seems like recognition is only out of a necessary response to outrage, the devs feel more like they fix things as a PR move than anything.
    Metallica, Metallica, Track 2
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