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    Mekhana's Avatar
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    Mekhana Souther
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    uhm, what? DRK never had great self-healing (besides abyssal drain with huge trash packs perhaps).
    I could solo a 4 man HM boss easy from 10-15%, it was probably a combination of factors though.
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    Karuru Karu
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    Shiva
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mekhana View Post
    I could solo a 4 man HM boss easy from 10-15%, it was probably a combination of factors though.
    DRK self sustain was always the weakest of the 3 tanks. we lost Boodbath and Mercy Stroke in 4.0, however, Mercy Stroke had not much relevance and the lost of Bloodbath is compensated with the Souleater buff. they increased not only the potency, but you can use Dark Arts now basically on every combo, wich further increases the potency of Souleater and a bigger potency means a stronger heal.

    the real problem of DRK still is the lost of the weaker defensive cooldowns with longer uptime. 20 seconds Foresight and 20 seconds Reprisal. DRK still has a good defensive kit against tank busters, but Souleater alone is not enough for inbetween these busters...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    DRK self sustain was always the weakest of the 3 tanks. we lost Boodbath and Mercy Stroke in 4.0, however, Mercy Stroke had not much relevance and the lost of Bloodbath is compensated with the Souleater buff. they increased not only the potency, but you can use Dark Arts now basically on every combo, wich further increases the potency of Souleater and a bigger potency means a stronger heal.

    the real problem of DRK still is the lost of the weaker defensive cooldowns with longer uptime. 20 seconds Foresight and 20 seconds Reprisal. DRK still has a good defensive kit against tank busters, but Souleater alone is not enough for inbetween these busters...
    Today for instance healer died at around 10% on Zenos, I managed to keep the DPS a couple aoes up with TBN but I couldn't solo him at around 6%. I just feel really weaker in general and very squishy without TBN up.
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    Jaghatai Dotharl
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    Ragnarok
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Most of the previous traits were baked into the spells and skills it actually changed, they only kept the passive stat gains and the new traits for stormblood.

    They are not something entirely relevant, since blackblood baseline is given at the same moment a new spell is (Delirium) to give the basic functionnality of the gauge.

    That doesn't mean the DRK is fixed somehow, but it's more an illusion of something that doesn't really miss, to look specifically at numbers of traits.
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    Lala Yuki
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Welp prelim patch notes are out....no drk changes. RIP.
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    Strea Leonhart
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    Diabolos
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Yeah I might as well just not play the content in 4.1 and cancel sub now if I already know that they are not going to fix DRK until the game is near death and at that point it will be too late... They refuse to acknowledge DRKs problems as a tank to actually make it function like a tank instead of a glorified DPS... so that means I get to use that $30+ on WoW gametime card since Blood DK feels more like DRK than DRK ever did...
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    Gulvioir Muruc
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    I'm probably won't cancel my sub with a new raid tier coming out, but I'm definately switching to paladin. Good luck y'all
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    Crusina Luachra
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Chrono_Rising View Post
    I'm probably won't cancel my sub with a new raid tier coming out, but I'm definately switching to paladin. Good luck y'all
    Do it. The more people who stop playing DRK the better then.

    If they don't do anything at all not only do we need to step up the criticism (without being toxic of course) but we need to simply stop playing the job altogether.

    If it's just a matter of "oh hey, look at all the changes we made to other classes DRK is lingering behind because of the work overload." That'd be fine, but they they need to tell us that. And they don't say anything at all. That's the real issue. No communication. They don't even go "oh stay tuned".
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    Last edited by Tegernako; 10-06-2017 at 11:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tegernako View Post
    Do it. The more people who stop playing DRK the better then if they don't do anything at all.
    I agree, the only way to see changes are to stop playing and just switch to something else. Hence my post, dark is already the least run tank in savage, might as well cut that number in half. And the sooner the better, ultimate tier comes out in two weeks. Maybe they'll start listening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrono_Rising View Post
    I agree, the only way to see changes are to stop playing and just switch to something else. Hence my post, dark is already the least run tank in savage, might as well cut that number in half. And the sooner the better, ultimate tier comes out in two weeks. Maybe they'll start listening.
    I mean, I have little doubt they are working on changes or ideas for changes.

    The problem is they don't SAY ANYTHING. And it's not just NA/EU english ppl either. The japanese forum gets no communication from them either.

    Why can't they just say they are working on more changes and that it will take time? Okay that sucks but at least you're talking to us. This silence is so frustrating.
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