DRK Consolidated Feedback Thread

[MauvaisOeil]

Remove Abyssal Drain and buff Unleash
Yeah I know, Abyssal Drain does good aoe dmg and nice healing when buffed with Dark Arts. But its pretty much the same skill as Unleash, plus Unleash seems to do more hate and there are just better things for aoe dmg you can do instead. (like Salted Earth, Dark Passenger, plus TBN and Blood Price and Quietus) So most of the time I totally forgot about Abyssal Drain and already removed it from my hotbar.

While some of your ideas overall might not be bad, this specific point make it hard to take the whole post seriously.

You probably prefer unleash for the easy targetting associated, or maybe the animation, but removing AD from your bar is a complete lack of understading it's awesome usage.

Edit : you don't "have better to do than AD". You weave ogcd or replenish abilities between AD.

[Kreyd]

While some of your ideas overall might not be bad, this specific point make it hard to take the whole post seriously.

You probably prefer unleash for the easy targetting associated, or maybe the animation, but removing AD from your bar is a complete lack of understading it's awesome usage.

Edit : you don't "have better to do than AD". You weave ogcd or replenish abilities between AD.

Yeah, that point is really a struggle. I just wanted to point out, that Unleash and AD are quite similar and I dont really see the reason to have both.
I could also remove Unleash and put AD on it's position and nothing really would change for me. I prefer Unleash, others may prefer AD or use both.

My aoe rotation goes 1 Unleash-Salted Earth-Blood Price-TBN-Dark Passenger. Then I go for SE combo (when there is one bigger target in the pull that will live the longest) and weave in as much Dark Arts Quietus as possible (which is actually a lot)

There may be better rotations with AD in it, but I feel really comfi with this one.

Edit: Maybe i was a bit too hard to poor AD. I'm sorry xD

However, I think that change to AD or Unleash, to make them more different to each other, would still be nice, instead of having AD as a kind of "improved Unleash"

[TankHunter678]

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In its current state its pretty much better to just not have dark passenger and use more AD. You get more overall damage that way. AD used twice is 240 potency, for only a little more then stock DP, but you need to DA DP to get the same potency for nearly 2x the cost, eating up 50% of your mana in the process.

For reference, I am at level 60, 2 ADs is 1944 MP. DP is 1768 MP and so is DA. So I can spend 3536 MP to do the damage output of 1944 MP. Now if I am lucky the targets can be hit with blind, which is so so defense as mobs start to miss a little more often, but not often enough to make up the rest of the cost.

Also while AD does not have as large of an enmity modifier its AoE design is better suited for when you drag the pack to one side of you. Allowing you to aim for the center of the pack and hit everything, instead of unleash only hitting half of the pack if its a really big pack.

[Kabooa]

Had a crazy thought.

What if Delirium...

Reduced the cooldown of your next ability used?

Remove or greatly reduce Delirium's cooldown, and perhaps reduce the Blood Gauge cost (25?)

This effectively grants the (possibly illusion of) choice of a Dark Knight being able to prioritize what they're going to want / need sooner. Maybe it's a safe phase and you want Carve and Spit up earlier. Maybe there's a bad news bears portion ahead of you where it'd be real super if Shadow Wall came up 30 seconds sooner.

Maybe you're completely fine for the time being and get to use your Sonic Fandom Original Move, who knows. Maybe you're real mad that day and want to Salt the Earth a bit more than usual.

It sounds crazy.

Does it sound bad crazy or good crazy?

[DRKoftheAzure]

I'm honestly waiting for the day we become Ragna the Bloodedge from BlazBlue to happen... also make Quietus Blood gauge cost 20, have 4.xx Delirium use all Blood gauge accumulated but double the amount of blood gauge you get from the above what-if changes to Blood Price and Blood Weapon, or if Delirium is used by itself Blood Repulsor buff duration depends on how much blood gauge was used, like 30-45 seconds max.

[DRKoftheAzure]

Hey guys, it's time we get serious and organize our feedback so that we can hopefully get Yoshida and his development team to hear our issues and complaints.

This type of thread is very successful in the JP forums. Ideally you should limit your post to a single issue so that other users may upvote it specifically. This will make it easier for the development team to see which the community stands behind the strongest.

That being said, feel free to make suggestions as other users will be able to make their posts as well.

Please be cordial and refrain from derailment as best as possible.

Do the developers even look at NA threads? They have every reason not to but I would like to see 1 of the developers or Naoki "Yoshi-P" Yoshida-san himself prove me wrong by replying and quoting this post...

[Kalocin]

Do the developers even look at NA threads? They have every reason not to but I would like to see 1 of the developers or Naoki "Yoshi-P" Yoshida-san himself prove me wrong by replying and quoting this post...

I think it'd be a poor idea not to but even if they didn't, using a translator plugin you can kind of read between the bad lines on the Japanese forums and see that they're echoing the same opinion in a lot of places.

[DWolfwood]

Do the developers even look at NA threads? They have every reason not to but I would like to see 1 of the developers or Naoki "Yoshi-P" Yoshida-san himself prove me wrong by replying and quoting this post...

They do, but as stated, we're going to have to work together to make our voice heard more. If one person has an idea and no one supports it, the devs aren't going to waste time on it. However, if a lot of people support an idea, the devs have no choice but to pay attention.

[TouchandFeel]

Do the developers even look at NA threads? They have every reason not to but I would like to see 1 of the developers or Naoki "Yoshi-P" Yoshida-san himself prove me wrong by replying and quoting this post...

That's not how things like this work.

It's common practice that developer communication and interaction with players is incredibly limited and heavily controlled, even for directors like Yoshi-P.

Pretty much every form of official communication is done through approved channels by approved people at approved times regarding approved things.

Even the interactions you see on the Japanese forums are vetted in this manner, with only specific people allowed to comment on certain things in certain subforums.

The reason that you don't see as many of those kind of direct channels on the EU and NA forums is most likely language barrier and the extra effort and people that would have to be involved with translating back and forth.

Believe me, just because you don't have devs visibly hanging on the players' every word and popping in to chat and responding to posts doesn't mean that there isn't someone reading through these threads and compiling feedback to pass along. If you watch any of the live Q&A's you can see proof of that.

[DRKoftheAzure]

That would make sense then... I just hope they fix DRK soon so that way I can have more fun AS DRK, because right now I feel like playing DRK at lvl cap is chore for even just some basic stuff that should be fun for me, but isn't due to how I basically need to take all of the damage mitigation abilities that all tanks have just so I survive slightly longer... Too many mandatory things to take and no real choice for DRK and WAR for Role action system... also any new problems with DRK that some people aren't aware of?