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    Quote Originally Posted by Mekhana View Post
    As for Carve and Spit, DAing or not is situational. The DPS is nice but the instant MP gain is too good to pass up. Generally only mandatory in burn phases or when OTing.
    The mana return on unboosted C&S is a safety net or an AoE supplement and something you should never ever do in single target unless you screw up badly. This has been the case since the job launched 2 years ago.
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    Mekhana Souther
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    Quote Originally Posted by SyzzleSpark View Post
    The mana return on unboosted C&S is a safety net or an AoE supplement and something you should never ever do in single target unless you screw up badly. This has been the case since the job launched 2 years ago.
    I haven't DA C&S in a while unless the DPS is really, really lacking. However, I never would say never. Intimacy is essential in any encounter/pull/boss fight and if a window comes up you could DA it I don't really see why not especially if you aren't using it over the period a second C&S would become available.

    I'm also talking about five mans or in general of course.
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    I'm like 99% sure that Dark Arts Siphon Strike gives more MP than not Dark Artsing it... Maybe it's different with/without grit but I make it a point to Dark Arts Siphon Strike because of the extra MP refund.

    I guess I'm thinking it gives more MP simply because of the damage increase.
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    Last edited by Mithron; 07-17-2017 at 11:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithron View Post
    I'm like 99% sure that Dark Arts Siphon Strike gives more MP than not Dark Artsing it... Maybe it's different with/without grit but I make it a point to Dark Arts Siphon Strike because of the extra MP refund.

    I guess I'm thinking it gives more MP simply because of the damage increase.
    It doesn't. Grit Syphon gives you more mana than non-Grit Syphon (twice as much). DAing it affects the damage but not the mana return.
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