"Pull Everything" in Dungeon Parties

[Avatre]

If you are a tank pace yourself slowly if you or you're healer is new, but if noone is new just say hey I'm pulling big Is that fine and most of the time the healer will say yes unless you're a WAR lol jk

Also I haven't seen dps pull since early HW but I am very guilty of the pulling as a healer because I also tank and it makes me mad when a fully geared tank pulls like 3mobs lol like are you serious! I am going to make you earn that cracked cluster cookie lol but I definitely need to work on letting the tank be bad or good instead of critiquing them sorry

Nearing the end of HW, shortly after Dun Scaith was released, I had healers and DPS starting the pull in Dun Scaith. Some even doing the countdown(no ready check). I normally wouldn't have a problem with it, but when someone is explaining mechanics to the new person, you let that happen. It wasn't even party chat, it was alliance chat.

As I said maybe its different on EU. Everyone here seems really nice. I've only had it happen one time I was healing and tank did huuuuuuuuuuge pulls and would go from like 100% HP to 10% straight away. We kept wiping I asked him to pull less but he just told me "I main AST you should be able to handle it". Any other time I've struggled and asked them to slow down they just say its fine and do so. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Yeah, you run into all kinds no matter what server/data center you're on. Some people are really nice and accommodating, others are like my example above.

[Seig345]

Last Sirensong Sea that I tanked, one of the dps spontaneously decided to pull the back half of that prison area after the second boss. Nothing said before hand, and I'm a bit of a doormat so I said nothing, just started keeping a closer eye on my cooldowns. The healer kept up like a champ, and no drama was had.

They could have spoken up, but for all I knew they were friends with the healer in a voice chat or something.

At least they didnt harp on me.

[jackass1203]

I tend to try to get around 2-3 pulls to get to the boss assuming I have good aoe. However, if I see the healer is just standing there not doing anything when I'm not taking damage then I'm going to put them to work and start pulling more if they don't want to help clear trash. The way I see it if a healer wants to just heal then that's what they're going to do with heavy pulls. As for dpsing pulling ahead of me (which I haven't seen happen yet) I'll pick it up from them. It's not like an extra 2-3 mobs will change anything. Now if we're lacking in the aoe then I'll just tell them to watch out and if we have massive aoe then that's good.

[Kanzer]

If you aren't comfortable tanking, then don't tank. As tank your job is to keep threat and also do your best to mitigate incoming damage. Only pulling 3 measly mobs who hit like wet noodles is the equivalent of a DPS just auto attacking. It wastes everyone's time and just makes you a baddie. I've pulled for tanks plenty as DPS, and if one refuses to do their job because of it then I just vote kick them. Problem solved.

[Kosmos992k]

If you aren't comfortable tanking, then don't tank. As tank your job is to keep threat and also do your best to mitigate incoming damage. Only pulling 3 measly mobs who hit like wet noodles is the equivalent of a DPS just auto attacking. It wastes everyone's time and just makes you a baddie. I've pulled for tanks plenty as DPS, and if one refuses to do their job because of it then I just vote kick them. Problem solved.

Seems more like vote kicking you would be problem solved. Some people wonder where the salt in such discussions comes from, I give you exhibit A.

[Kanzer]

Seems more like vote kicking you would be problem solved. Some people wonder where the salt in such discussions comes from, I give you exhibit A.

Except I don't get vote kicked. Believe it or not, most healers/dps want big pulls. :>

[LunarEmerald]

If you aren't comfortable tanking, then don't tank. As tank your job is to keep threat and also do your best to mitigate incoming damage. Only pulling 3 measly mobs who hit like wet noodles is the equivalent of a DPS just auto attacking. It wastes everyone's time and just makes you a baddie. I've pulled for tanks plenty as DPS, and if one refuses to do their job because of it then I just vote kick them. Problem solved.

Spamming aoes to maintain hate isn't exactly hard either. The healer is the one that does all the work in big pulls. You can tell the quality of a healer by how big of a pull they can handle.

[Kanzer]

Spamming aoes to maintain hate isn't exactly hard either. The healer is the one that does all the work in big pulls. You can tell the quality of a healer by how big of a pull they can handle.

Pretty much. Tanks just need to stop crying when their party asks them to make bigger pulls. Spam your AoE threat builder, get out of AoE's, and space out your cooldowns in an intelligent manner and let your party utilize the tools they enjoy utilizing to get the job done.

[missybee]

I've said it before and I'll say it again - everyone is replaceable.

If the majority of the party decides that something isn't working out - be it big pulls or small pulls, you can have a discussion about how things are going. If the group can't reach an amicable decision, then that's the point at which you might want to entertain the idea of kicking the dissenting opinion.

As a few others have mentioned, you can't improve if you don't push your limits. As a healer, mass pulls used to give me a lot of anxiety, but nowadays, I love them. Single pulls tend to be very disappointing, if anything.

I'm not a big fan of calling people entitled, but there seem to be some very self-righteous tanks in this thread.

[Alysrea]

No. /10char