"Pull Everything" in Dungeon Parties

[Kosmos992k]

I'd say it's more full of bad players who want to excuse being bad instead of actually work to improve. But hey, if they're so good at making friends, then maybe they can just queue with their other bad friends and stay out of duty finder. Then they can enjoy their forever long dungeon runs without any complaints.

Just want to make a comment about your constant assertions that others are "bad players", "bad" or "baddies".

Guilty dog barks first, and you're barking a lot.

[missybee]

Just want to make a comment about your constant assertions that others are "bad players", "bad" or "baddies".

Guilty dog barks first, and you're barking a lot.

I don't know anything about Kanzer's skill, but what I do know is that there are a lot of really terrible players here on the OF that go on and on about how their way is superior when it is just objectively incorrect.

So...there's just a lot of "barking" in general.

[Kanzer]

I don't know anything about Kanzer's skill, but what I do know is that there are a lot of really terrible players here on the OF that go on and on about how their way is superior when it is just objectively incorrect.

So...there's just a lot of "barking" in general.

And when you try to tell them their way is incorrect and actually show evidence of it, you're just being 'toxic'.

[Kosmos992k]

I don't know anything about Kanzer's skill, but what I do know is that there are a lot of really terrible players here on the OF that go on and on about how their way is superior when it is just objectively incorrect.

So...there's just a lot of "barking" in general.

If you mean there is a wide variation in skill, sure, but people who can't resist calling other players names like 'bads' and 'baddies' are in their own little niche of skill. I don't care about their in-game skill, the skill I refer to is the ability to annoy and offend others.

Regardless of the amount of barking, the guilty dog still barks first.

Useless comment that has nothing to do with the discussion actually going on. Though I can't say I'm surprised. Ruff. :>

It's very relevant given the way you appear to deliberately offend others with the way you characterize players. You're so quick to point fingers at others, I have to wonder whether you might be trying to distract attention from something else.

And when you try to tell them their way is incorrect and actually show evidence of it, you're just being 'toxic'.

Whether you're called 'toxic' or not has a lot more to do with *how* you convey your message than it does your message. Considering the posts of yours that I have replied to here, I am not surprised at all that people might consider you to be toxic, not because of the message you are trying to deliver, but the way in which you deliver it. If you lace your message with insults, calling others bad or lazy, how do you think your message will be received?

[Kanzer]

It's very relevant given the way you appear to deliberately offend others with the way you characterize players. You're so quick to point fingers at others, I have to wonder whether you might be trying to distract attention from something else.




Whether you're called 'toxic' or not has a lot more to do with *how* you convey your message than it does your message. Considering the posts of yours that I have replied to here, I am not surprised at all that people might consider you to be toxic, not because of the message you are trying to deliver, but the way in which you deliver it. If you lace your message with insults, calling others bad or lazy, how do you think your message will be received?

Life's too short to always be worried about 'how' you're conveying your message. Besides, the guys talking about how they'd deliberately wipe a group because they're mad at a DPS pulling some extra mobs don't seem too concerned with how their message is conveyed. Lack of skill mixed with that kind of attitude indeed makes you a baddie. And that's the exactly the type of person I'm addressing. Are you that type of person? If so, guess what that makes you?

[Galgarion]

That's a false equivalency, Kanzer. You're equating lack of experience with lack of skill. No two people learn at the same rate. Your mentaliity of sink or swim might produce short-term gains in the form of finishing the dungeon faster, but it's bad in the long run if your actions cause a frustrated and embarrassed tank to stop wanting to play. Future groups are impacted by that. A little patience can go a long way.

[Kanzer]

That's a false equivalency, Kanzer. You're equating lack of experience with lack of skill. No two people learn at the same rate. Your mentaliity of sink or swim might produce short-term gains in the form of finishing the dungeon faster, but it's bad in the long run if your actions cause a frustrated and embarrassed tank to stop wanting to play. Future groups are impacted by that. A little patience can go a long way.

I have no issues with someone who has a desire to get better. I'm referring to the ones who are fine with performing terribly and then get angry with people who don't accept that that's just the way they want to be. No false equivalency here, no misunderstanding of what's what.

[Roegan]

I have no issues with someone who has a desire to get better. I'm referring to the ones who are fine with performing terribly and then get angry with people who don't accept that that's just the way they want to be. No false equivalency here, no misunderstanding of what's what.

I always seek to improve myself, but guess who I don't go to for help? The person whining and moaning and calling people "baddies" and spitting their dummy out.

[Kosmos992k]

Are you that type of person? If so, guess what that makes you?

If you read my posts here you know what kind of person I am, and no, I wouldn't wipe a group or let a party member die on purpose. I'm a tank, tanks don't do that.

You say life is to short for niceties, except you were the one bemoaning being called toxic. If your own conduct leads to you being called toxic, then modify your behavior, or stop complaining about it.

[Kanzer]

If you read my posts here you know what kind of person I am, and no, I wouldn't wipe a group or let a party member die on purpose. I'm a tank, tanks don't do that.

You say life is to short for niceties, except you were the one bemoaning being called toxic. If your own conduct leads to you being called toxic, then modify your behavior, or stop complaining about it.

You know they have a quote feature, you can actually use it instead of making up your own interpretations of what I actually said. In fact, I'd recommend going back and taking a look, might be good for your reading comprehension.

Good, I'm glad you're not that type of person. Because if the healer and DPS want bigger pulls, and you aren't delivering, chances are one of them will deliver for you. (Yep, I've seen healers pull too, they're my favorites.)