"Pull Everything" in Dungeon Parties

[Spammer]

"Tis better to bend with the wind than stand tall and be Broken" Or in otherwords, Learn to be a flexible tank. Rather than try and do it a way YOU like, Think of what the party needs/wants. Being stubborn will only lead to the party arguing with you and a potential breakdown of the group, Not to mention making an ass of yourself.

If you're new to tanking or feel uncomfortable with big pulls than make it known at the beginning. If you're experienced then ask the healer if they want small or big pulls.

[Eadyn]

I don't like it when someone runs ahead and pulls stuff for me. I'm still working on gearing up my tank, I don't need someone 20 ilevels above me pulling stuff intentionally and getting upset that they kept the aggro.

That and like someone else mentioned if you want to set the pace, run as tank yourself. You don't know if the tank is comfortable or capable of taking more mobs and forcing a sloppy pull is not speeding up anything.

[ximxim]

Looking at these replies... and you still wonder why most of us hesitate to make a tank class... By the Twelve!

Keep pushing tankers and sooner or later they will do DF /raid/whatever only within their circle... by that time, good luck finding one for dungeoning.

Keep your "Pro" ideas of tanking to yourself and stop shoving it to us. Better yet, go play your tank class or make one if you are that pro.

Toxic people is indeed toxic.

/toodle

[missybee]

Keep your "Pro" ideas of tanking to yourself and stop shoving it to us. Better yet, go play your tank class or make one if you are that pro.

Pulling more than one pack of mobs does not make you a pro.

If your party is competent, there is very rarely a reason to do single pulls.

The three other randos you are matched with aren't always going to be okay with "but muh comfort!"

[Eldevern]

Few players seem to imagine we all spend our life in the game, levelling all jobs and farming so often all dungeons we are bored of everything and want big pull to get the pill.

I summarize what they say pretending they respect people who learn (non-sense since they imagine other's life and other's gameplay/playtime) :
If you play tank one time a week, in one dungeon, -one possible reason why all people are not really always confident and avoid big pulls- don't even try to learn, just leave the game, your are too bad for our standard. We don't have time to lose with you learning.

Some kind of contradiction when they suggest to people to levelling in dungeons. Some kind of contradiction too when they pretend they respect players who are in learning phase.

Do not use the DF, as if people in FC were always available at our pace. Other kind of non-sense (for multiple reason these pseudo-PGM seem unable to admit, since they don't seem to think about before running on their PGM high horses).

Not all players need adrenaline. No all players are in need of some kind of stress. No all player feel kind of competition. Few? Some? are maybe just looking for some kind of relaxation in alternative world (doesn't it make sense in a RPG?). Does this forbidde them to play tank (or other job, it means for all jobs, in fact), to learn at their pace?

[NewSinz]

The issue with tanking ( just started back up myself ) is PUG's. The first thing I do is look at a healers gear. That gives me a good idea of what I can and can't pull. Secondly I usually ask if they are ok with bigger pulls. I personally dont trust PuG healers. Often they are either over healing or DPSing and zone out and let me or other tanks get way to low. Healers need to know their class and I feel like a lot of healers only made healers so they could get fast queues lol.

[Fynlar]

If you're new to tanking or feel uncomfortable with big pulls than make it known at the beginning.

Tanks do that by... guess what? Making smaller pulls. They shouldn't have to spell it out for every single group at the start.

Few players seem to imagine we all spend our life in the game, levelling all jobs and farming so often all dungeons we are bored of everything and want big pull to get the pill.

What, and the tank hasn't? Do you think you're special, here?

[Annah]

as a healer I don't mind massive pulls. I actually welcome it. And I also respect a Tank who wants to get a feel for it first.

However, what kinda irks me a bit is when they pull everything, get to the bosses without even checking on the other parties (you know, pulling in 6 mobs into the boss arena) and then run right for the final boss without even checking in on the new person who is, rightfully, watching the cut scene...which causes them to miss out on the fight

Now, that behavior bothers me.

If you can do mass pulls as a tank and respect a new player who would like to watch a 15 second cutscene then I think that's awesome. That's a good tank. I mean ...you and I get instant queues, the DPS dont. Let them new folks watch that cutscene for the first time!

[Eldevern]

@Fynlar

I don't know what you expect me to reply. This kinda sounds like a missunderstanding. But I will pass. I have nothing to add to my last sayings.