Regarding: Centurio Tiger mount

[FedoraTheExplorer]

As a person who would love to have this mount, but will likely never get to have it...

I'm OK with this.

It's a shame that the "everything should be available to everyone" cancer has leaked in to other games..and we all know where it's coming from...

Right, of course. How dare people want this mount to have reasonable attainability.

Also, can we please not compare this to a disease that affects countless lives?

[bswpayton]

First off, i'm not entirely sure where this belongs as I don't post on the forums.
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[Fynlar]

The requirements are admittedly insane, but not to the players who are and have been into hunting. They are seriously committed and should get some kind of crazy reward like the tiger mount, because there are WAY too many deadbeats and leechers out there who join a hunt LS and apparently prioritize other shit more and ignore hunt calls 99% of the time.

Yeah, how dare people try to get anything else done in this game. If you don't instantly abandon your DF parties the moment you hear a hunt call you obviously don't deserve your spot in the hunt LS.

[Stormfur]

It's just mind-boggling to me that, in order to revive stale, broken or otherwise skewed content (hunts and PVP - particularly before its current changes), they lock much-wanted mounts behind insane and practically unattainable conditions for the majority of the player base. Of course, that's not to say that hunters or extreme PVPers don't deserve rewards -- they do. But don't lock them behind "no-life" requirements like Top 100 per DATA CENTER (not even server!) or 2,000 S-Rank hunts + 1,000 A-Rank hunts.

I get that you want to make subscriptions last, SE. But let players work toward it on their own time so that eventually, whether you're into the grind or you're not, you can actually and realistically attain these things. Why could the PVP mounts not be bought with a high number of Wolf Marks (what good are they, anyway?) or the tiger with Centurio seals?

[Doki]

Kinda tired of every new mount being gated behind either a impossible achievement, or savage clear.

[Theodric]

As an aside, a lot of people aren't complaining because of 'entitlement'. They're putting forward legitimate complains because quite a lot of people spoke up when they saw the tiger model when it it was added to the game as an enemy and made it clear that they thought it would make for a neat inclusion. Instead of being made into something that those players could work towards, though, it is locked behind a pretty ridiculous grind.

[DrWho2010]

grind in an MMO??!?!? by the twelve! =p

[Stormfur]

I wouldn't even mind the "grind" - if it were something you could work toward when you have time - like with the tank mounts, most of the PVP mounts, etc. If some other tank in the party kills Garuda first during a trial, it's not like you didn't get credit. Or if they were one of the first tanks ever in their data center to kill her (but that time has long since passed), it's not like you don't have an equal shot. But that's exactly what has happened with both the much-desired Hellhounds and the Centurio tiger.

[Alleo]

It's just mind-boggling to me that, in order to revive stale, broken or otherwise skewed content (hunts and PVP - particularly before its current changes), they lock much-wanted mounts behind insane and practically unattainable conditions for the majority of the player base. Of course, that's not to say that hunters or extreme PVPers don't deserve rewards -- they do. But don't lock them behind "no-life" requirements like Top 100 per DATA CENTER (not even server!) or 2,000 S-Rank hunts + 1,000 A-Rank hunts.

They just need to create badass unique looking pvp gear or weapons (with they did this season) and one should have enough rewards for a relative small group of dedicated PVPers. Also hunts always had lots of carrots to do. You will have mounts, pets, items to increase your gear and more locked behind hunts and since SB you will also have to hunt to unlock mount speed. IMO that its already way enough as rewards. No other content imo has that much of an reward than those two. Heck even the most difficult content has only the dyeable version of the normal gear set and maybe a mount.

I just dont understand why those two parts of the game deserve so much exclusive stuff which is often also limited or really hard to get (like the two wanted mounts) yet you wont find such a limit in other content. You will always be able to get the mounts from extreme versions or savage if you either buy a clear, be able to clear it when its still recent or you just wait till later when the drops rates are higher and you can unsynch it. So why do hunts and PVP deserve such an extra treatment? And before someone says it: No I dont mean that they should not have their mounts and stuff but PVP already has lots of mounts behind their maps which need a bit of grinding and winning to get them and hunts have a mount and pet too. So imo already way enough.

[Maku]

I understand grind in an MMO, but this particular grind takes over a year minimum and that is if you have no-life and can be logged in 24/7 and get every single S-Rank ever. This is a far harder grind then even relic weapons were way back when in FFXI first came out.

A reasonable guess for the major player base would probably be threeish years at the current requirements. There is no gaurantee that the game will even be running still in three years with the way that the player base fluctuates so much after each expansion.