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    I think most of you guys are missing the point of the thread. The OP is talking about Healers that are literally just standing around doing absolutely nothing leaving the other healer to fend for themselves. Think of it like the PvP problem we had with people just AFKing, but apply it to PvE content instead. Honestly, I have seen this behaviour lately especially in the final Stormblood trial and the new Normal mode Raid tier (there were points where the other healer would intentionally jump off the platform). I wonder why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamFyi View Post
    The OP is talking about Healers that are literally just standing around doing absolutely nothing leaving the other healer to fend for themselves.
    Truth be told, I've not seen that all that often myself. What I do see very often are "heal-only" healers that are simply very slow and then end up cancelling their heal all the time because their co-healer was faster. These same players will never allow your AoE HoTs to be useful either, because they have their OCD triggered when people aren't at 100% all the time and consequently spam medica on people at 90% to nullify your HoTs.
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    Arctura Fengari
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamFyi View Post
    I think most of you guys are missing the point of the thread. The OP is talking about Healers that are literally just standing around doing absolutely nothing leaving the other healer to fend for themselves. Think of it like the PvP problem we had with people just AFKing, but apply it to PvE content instead. Honestly, I have seen this behaviour lately especially in the final Stormblood trial and the new Normal mode Raid tier (there were points where the other healer would intentionally jump off the platform). I wonder why.
    ^^^^^ I see it in trial roulette, and msq roulette too.
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    Thea Sitori
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    Truth be told, I've not seen that all that often myself. What I do see very often are "heal-only" healers that are simply very slow and then end up cancelling their heal all the time because their co-healer was faster. These same players will never allow your AoE HoTs to be useful either, because they have their OCD triggered when people aren't at 100% all the time and consequently spam medica on people at 90% to nullify your HoTs.
    Those kind of heal-only healers tend to be the worst, they are not confident with the job, content, damage script, or what not.

    Even in easy stuff, they don't even realize Swiftcast+Medica II or Lightspeed is actually a thing, so they are late while the other healer has it up already. Nope they just sit on these good cooldowns just like the bad tanks do too. Pushing buttons is hard, but also pushing one more button to make the job even more simple is even harder.
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    Roegan Skaetmoen
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    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    Those kind of heal-only healers tend to be the worst, they are not confident with the job, content, damage script, or what not.

    Even in easy stuff, they don't even realize Swiftcast+Medica II or Lightspeed is actually a thing, so they are late while the other healer has it up already. Nope they just sit on these good cooldowns just like the bad tanks do too. Pushing buttons is hard, but also pushing one more button to make the job even more simple is even harder.
    Well they aren't going to get more confident (and better as players) with people like you and this thread moaning about them. Especially in the current climate of "to dps or not dps".
    Seems to me if you DPS in down time you get moaned about.
    If you don't dps, but there is downtime so you therefore do nothing much, you get moaned about.

    Can't win.
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    Ile'a Nahvi
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    I don't mind "relaxed" healers if they're competent, or in content where two healers aren't really needed.

    When I know the other healer or can tell they're healing smart, a lack of heals isn't a big deal, since I know they'll be ready for the room-wide AoE. DPSing becomes much easier as well.

    But that's rarely the case. It feels like the PUG healers I get rarely heal (e.g. Noct sect ASTs who don't shield) or heal too much. You end up having to overcompensate since they don't prepare for tankbusters, or run their MP dry spamming Medica II.

    I've actually been pleasantly surprised by DPS party members in SB. RDMs are always on top of Raises, BLMs will Mana Shift me, and BRDs offer Refresh. Even a single RDM offers more utility than a lazy healer.
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