Possible AST nerf

[Miste]

AST aspected benefic has a 200 potency initial heal portion.
WHM regen does not. Seems like you forgotten that?

The potency of diurnal aspected benefic is actually 220 initial, 154 per tick after sect bonus. It does one less tick than regen, but the initial heal more than makes up for it, and AST has the option of using time dialation + celestial opposition every once in a while to increase duration.

Exiled_Tonberry was actually right to say that AST regen is stepping on WHM toes in the regen department. It's close when it comes to medica 2 vs diurnal aspected helios, but AST's regen equivalent is just better than WHM's for the added use of being a passable upfront heal, on top of already beating its total potency, and still having the option to extend its duration.

You didn't really "pick apart" anything for my post. In fact it seems you have not read it carefully.

IF you notice Exiled said "more powerful healing and regens"

I knew the regens part was false since I play both so I compared them to get the numbers.

"Regens"

The initial heal on Asp. Benefic isn't a "Regen", it's an initial heal. Seems like you have forgotten that?

So you are just nitpicking now to try to prove a point (a useless point) when I was just correcting the incorrect information that AST actually has more powerful HoTs than WHM.

If you compare WHMs Regen's extra tick versus the initial heal of Asp. Benefic the result is still: Basically the same. The difference is <1%. Are we REALLY going to nitpick that? Yes, you can extend it's duration every 2 minutes, but that is a niche of AST just like WHM Lillies (and Critical heals) can lower the cooldown of Asylum/Assize. AST increases duration to get more effect and WHM can reduce the cooldown to use the effect more often. It ends up to be pretty much the same thing in the end just different methods.

*PS. No good AST would use Celestial Opposition specifically to increase regens only; nor would they use time dilation just to increase a regen either.

Thing is...why does it matter if AST and WHM heal for around the same amount with their asp benefic/regen/medica II/asp. helios regen spells?

Healing power is not the issue so why does it become one if someone just corrects incorrect information?

WHM is lacking utility. Higher healing NEVER means anything as long as the content can be properly healed. The main thing about the "meta", as people are forgetting, is the DPS that healer can contribute either by buffs or by direct healer DPS spells.

WHM has the highest healer DPS damage. It doesn't make up for Balance, but it closes the gap to closer than some people think. So WHM just needs some extra utility or up the DPS they can personally do.

If they increase WHM's healing power to above ASTs right now what does this accomplish? The meta won't change because WHM still cannot do as much DPS as AST unless WHM ends up SO overpowered at healing that groups no longer need two healers. If that is your goal then we might as well just delete SCH and AST and only have one healer job: White Mage.

So please as a WHM main as well as AST. Argue the real issue of no WHM utility. Not nitpick regens trying to claim one is sooo much better than the other when that isn't even true or the problem.