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    Eloah's Avatar
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    Toki Tsuchimi
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ootarion View Post
    No one is denying that when it comes to healing that SCH isnt up there with WHM and AST in terms of brute force healing, however, when ive compared the numbers, a SCH using Physick or even Adlo, combined with their Fairy's primary heal, can actually achieve a 650 potency, or when you combine Lustrate with the Fairy's heal, that is a combined total of 900 potency worth of healing. That is nothing to sniff at....
    I hope this doesn't sound presumptuous, but you do realize that your repsonse proves my point?

    Quote Originally Posted by chesnaught View Post
    I'm really lost if you thought my post said SCH needs to be nerfed.
    My apologies if you thought I was attacking you in a sense, that was not my intent. But the response from your original post "I don't mind that AST shields are stronger than a non crit SCH adloquium. SCH has a constant source of MP-free, stack-free, gcd-free healing in their fairy on top of their GCD heals." is a little misguided. Many people want to point to the fairy as a reason why it's okay for a SCH to not have what other healers have, and to a degree that is fine, but point to the right thing, which many people do not. The fairy isn't comparable to the shields as you indicated, she is the SCH's answer for the larger heals that WHM and AST has complete access to. So a better analogy is "I don't mind that AST's Benefic II costs less MP or that WHM Cure II is a stronger heal. SCH has a constant source of MP-free, stack-free, gcd-free healing in their fairy on top of their GCD heals."

    The Shield debate that is going on right now is because SCH's niche/gimmick/playstyle/thing/etc is Shields so they should have the "best ones" and the most options, Right now AST is beating them in every step. Now I am not stating that AST needs a nerf to their shields, per se, but the shields should be comparable at least. A lower MP Cost for the shield spells, a trait to make Adlo Crit or be instant cast, an increased potency or shield percentage, any one of these would help to make SCH feel more like the mitigation healer again. That's not even mentioning that SCHs themselves, me included, have been asking for more shield options and abilities, if we got an instant cast shield that was like 25% of our max MP, or if Selene got an AoE shield skill, even a buff to Sacred Soil or a reduced CD time for Deployment Tactics would do wonders. Hell Dissipation needs a revamp, they could even make that into an AoE shield for like 25% of our max HP, but make it use the fey gauge like 50 points or so, i'd say reduce the GC to 90 seconds at least though.

    But Ultimately, the main issue is that, if SCH is supposed to be the Mitigation healer, why do we have the worst mitigation tools over the Buff healer, who can swap between Regeneration healing and Mitigation healing, on top of their Buffs which includes a buff for mitigating damage?

    A good example is, that some people are asking for Selene to get an increase to her Fey Wind skill, which I can see why that is a thing. I personally don't mind if it gets an increase or not, since Fey Wind is a Buff, and I am not the Buff healer. I don't need all of my skills to be on par with the other healers, I just need the skills that are supposed to be my thing, in this case shields, to be better than the other healers.
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    Last edited by Eloah; 07-17-2017 at 09:42 AM.
    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.