Possible AST nerf

[Iveriad]

Now be honest; if AST's potencies were lower across the board, down to 3.0-levels, but had the card system they have now, would you take the WHM with stronger, but typically unneeded healing, or the AST that can reliably boost the raid's outgoing damage?

You can't really say AST could boost the raid "reliably", they drew random cards. Redraw gives them a better chance at drawing the card they needed, and Spread helps keeping the card you might not need right now, but might need later, but the cards are still random in the end.

Nerfing healing potency will only make WHM into a must have for the newest EX/Savage content since WHM will be the only one who can do "Unneeded healing", just like when Urth's Fount was introduced and people refused to go there without a WHM since SCH can't AoE heal as well as a WHM.

[Ootarion]

Your shields are stronger than a SCHs right now unless that SCH crits. Top that off with cards and you have effectively pushed a Job well out of a Job lol. You need a few nerfs you shouldn't be that strong when you bring entire group buffs and make the group just outright better just by being there.

Sooooo SCH is supposed to have better Non Crit and Crit Shielding? Where does that leave AST shielding? There is nothing wrong with AST having stronger Non Crit shields but giving SCH better Crit Shields, it at least gives both classes something.

[Atmora]

Your shields are stronger than a SCHs right now unless that SCH crits. Top that off with cards and you have effectively pushed a Job well out of a Job lol. You need a few nerfs you shouldn't be that strong when you bring entire group buffs and make the group just outright better just by being there.

But SCH Isn't being pushed out of a Job, it's still optimal to take one.

[Reilyn]

But SCH Isn't being pushed out of a Job, it's still optimal to take one.

Doesn't change the fact nocturnal AST does almost everything better than SCH except OGCD healing, for the millionth time. You took my words literally, and tried to split hairs.

My point is, this isn't balance.

[Enla]

Doesn't change the fact nocturnal AST does almost everything better than SCH except OGCD healing, for the millionth time. You took my words literally.

And if you go to FFlogs and check the healing output for any given raid that SCH are under-performing by an intense margin.

[Azper]

I switched from WHM to AST this expansion and even I think it's a bit overpowered. I'm not saying it needs a nerf, but WHM and SCH definitely need some attention to level the playing field a bit.

[Caduagm]

You shouldn't be going noct anyways cz it's poop

[Ootarion]

You shouldn't be going noct anyways cz it's poop

Why does Nocturnal even exist then? I said this in another post, if Noct is worthless like you say it is, then this simply means, this simply PROVES that SCH Shielding isnt inferior to AST shielding and that people are just needlessly trying to take something away from AST that it needed, and by your logic and logic others share with you, the buff AST shielding got still isnt enough to keep Noct from being worthless!

[Blood-Aki]

You shouldn't be going noct anyways cz it's poop

You should try actually using noct stance then, or PLAYING AST because noct not only saves very well in dungeons trash mobs or as a great shield. but any good AST knows when to switch between the 2. during certain situations and fights.

Not just "diurnal onry" usually the type of mentaility shared by those ASTs who only use one card and forget the others exist.

[Ootarion]

You should try actually using noct stance then, or PLAYING AST because noct not only saves very well in dungeons trash mobs or as a great shield. but any good AST knows when to switch between the 2. during certain situations and fights.

Not just "diurnal onry" usually the type of mentaility shared by those ASTs who only use one card and forget the others exist.

Well said Blood-Aki, thank you! SCH can outshine AST in shielding, when it crits yes, but that doesnt mean that SCH shielding sucks, it can still do things AST cant, and when I run the numbers together, there are times where SCH can even out heal an AST.