Possible AST nerf

[Sakei]

You do realize that, as far as development time goes (which costs money), it takes a lot less time to alter 1 job than it does to alter 2+ jobs.

It takes far less time to alter 2 than to alter 1 and then have to go back and fix all three.

[Niroken]

It takes far less time to alter 2 than to alter 1 and then have to go back and fix all three.

They should had just remade AST into something different because honestly if they even gave healers another new job its going to be a nightmare to balance, that is to say if they actually care about balancing healers at all in the first place. The design concept of AST was going to cause problems sooner then later. How veteran developers failed to see that even though they basically did something similar (and regretted it) is beyond me. When it comes to healers it looks like they have a very, very hard time.

[Enla]

If SCH and WHM are falling behind, they are the problem, they are the ones needing a buff. AST is not the one that needs to be changed. I never once before used the shields of AST because they just simply sucked. I see no point in Nocturnal if it is just going to suck again.

It doesn't need to suck again but it shouldn't put SCH's out of a job, nor should the healing creep get worse just because one class was overbuffed well beyond what it should be. AST should be comparable to the other classes but not LEAGUES better at their specific gimmicks, having the cards instead should make up the bulk of whatever difference exists. Nothing either SCH or WHM can dish out even compares to the utility of the cards, and having AST well outpace everything else on top of that is silly.

[Ootarion]

It doesn't need to suck again but it shouldn't put SCH's out of a job, nor should the healing creep get worse just because one class was overbuffed well beyond what it should be. AST should be comparable to the other classes but not LEAGUES better at their specific gimmicks, having the cards instead should make up the bulk of whatever difference exists. Nothing either SCH or WHM can dish out even compares to the utility of the cards, and having AST well outpace everything else on top of that is silly.

I used to main a WHM, and have gotten mine high in lvl, not as high as my AST but still high. I know for a fact that WHM can still outshine AST in several ways. WHM has better damage, due in part to having two DoTs and Stone is by far stronger then Malefic, WHM can make its MP costs ZERO for 12 seconds AND has several VERY powerful off global cooldown heals, AST cant compare to those off globals. WHM even has better MP management. There is no where in this that WHM is being outclassed in EVERY regard compared to AST, not one bit.

AST needed this buff to Nocturnal Shielding, i know that for a fact, I simply refused to use Nocturnal before SBs launch, there was NO POINT in it. Right now, Nocturnal actually has a use cause the shields are actually meaningful! D:

[Ootarion]

Im even hearing that RDM is being nerfed, as well as SAM in very unreasonable ways for unreasonable excuses. Having already played RDM, I see no reason for a nerf, Ive even played BLM and know for a fact that BLMs can hit just as hard if not harder.

[simiii]

"Whm has better damage" not enough damage to out dps a aoe balance

Yes your right whm has so much mana that it's pointless you only need that much mana if you plan of rezing like 10 people and that means we are going enrage anyway

What are these "several powerfull cds?"

Tetra? You have essential dignity and that's in every way better then tetra

Benediction? You have a aoe benediction on a 60 sec cd if charged if not charged it's a aoe tetra

Asylum? It's a okay skill but most time I just throw it down whenever it's on cd it's not a game changer if anything it's ment to save mp

Bension? Is a joke (it has potential)

Only powerful cd I can think of is presence of mind and ya that rly is a strong cd but lightspeed is pretty damn close to being just as good

[Rubiss]

If SCH and WHM are falling behind, they are the problem, they are the ones needing a buff. AST is not the one that needs to be changed. I never once before used the shields of AST because they just simply sucked. I see no point in Nocturnal if the shields are just going to suck again.

Where was this mentality when SCH was nerfed? Nah, ASTs going to get it real good.

[snuggans]

If SCH and WHM are falling behind, they are the problem, they are the ones needing a buff. AST is not the one that needs to be changed.

all 3 healers can complete the current content and will be able to also complete savage, so it's not that anyone requires buffs (although the smoothing out of clunky new abilities sure is welcomed), but if a certain class is making the meta question so easy to answer, should that power not be looked at? sometimes it's simpler to make minor tweaks to the classes but in different directions so that they can meet in the middle.

[Iveriad]

If SCH and WHM are falling behind, they are the problem, they are the ones needing a buff. AST is not the one that needs to be changed. I never once before used the shields of AST because they just simply sucked. I see no point in Nocturnal if the shields are just going to suck again.

I think the problem to that is :
If they make SCH and WHM better at their specific department compared to AST, then AST will be an underwhelming Jack of All Trades class like how it was back in 3.0.
If they enable AST to be at the same level as SCH and WHM, then AST will be a much better choice than WHM or AST who can only do half of AST's Job.

[Reilyn]

I think the problem to that is :
If they make SCH and WHM better at their specific department compared to AST, then AST will be an underwhelming Jack of All Trades class like how it was back in 3.0.

I talked about this before;

Even if ASTs healing potencies were to go down to 3.0 levels while leaving the rest of their utilities they way they are now, they would still likely put WHM on the bench.

The main problem was that AST's utility and buffs were so inconsistent in 3.0 that a SCHs Fey Wind from Selene was better. Healing for less was just salt in the wound.

In 3.0:

Shuffle(later renamed redraw) used to have at least a 60 second recast, and possibly gave the user the same card a second time.
Spread used to have at least a 90 second recast.
Balance used to be 10% with a shorter duration.
Lightspeed used to cut healing potency.

Now be honest; if AST's potencies were lower across the board, down to 3.0-levels, but had the card system they have now, would you take the WHM with stronger, but typically unneeded healing, or the AST that can reliably boost the raid's outgoing damage?

My point is, it's the cards that really put AST where it is. Nerfing healing potencies won't do much to help WHM, or hurt AST's place in the hierarchy (though granted, there's no reason for AST to run around with a better version of SCHs adloquium, and succor in almost every way while they're in nocturnal sect. That is just stupid)