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  1. #11
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    Sebazy's Avatar
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Furious View Post
    Here's a spreadsheet I made based on the currently known ratings.
    Good analysis, ty! It'll be interesting to see how high we can push our secondaries towards the end of this expansion, 3000 crit rating isn't that far off if we get reasonably lucky with itemisation.
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  2. #12
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    Ceasaria's Avatar
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    Ceasaria Pheonixia
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Furious View Post
    about sheet
    I don't see DH Crit on your sheet, is it normal ?
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  3. #13
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    Furious Laughter
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    Ravana
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ceasaria View Post
    I don't see DH Crit on your sheet, is it normal ?
    By DH Crit do you just mean when a crit and direct hit proc at the same time? It doesn't need to be shown separately, the two just multiply with each other the same as they multiply with det and tenacity.

    Take a base hit of 100 points of damage.

    You have 5% tenacity, 6% determination, 7% chance to DH (25% dh damage), 8% crit chance (which means 43% crit damage)

    Your base damage will always be affected by det and ten, so 100*1.05*1.06=111 damage
    When you direct hit, you do 25% extra damage, so 111*1.25=139 damage
    When you crit, you do 43% extra damage, so 111*1.43=159 damage
    When you crit and direct hit, you do 25% extra damage, then 43% extra damage, so 111*1.25*1.43=198 damage

    Your average damage will consider your chance to crit and dh, so

    1.05*1.06*(1-0.07+0.07*1.25)*(1-0.8+0.8*1.43)=1.52, so at those numbers you would do ~52% more than your "base" damage, over the course of time. Ergo, your "average" damage per hit is 100*1.52=152. This average includes instances where you dh, crit, both, and neither.
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    Last edited by Furious; 07-17-2017 at 02:07 AM.

  4. #14
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    Nana Thefadingmoon
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 80
    I actually went with spell speed this time. I am already swimming in crit and piety on my AST but my spell speed was around 750. Since we lost the spell speed from our sec my casting has felt a bit slower. So I am pushing to get around 1380 spell speed and seeing how I feel about it.
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  5. #15
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    Rin Tin
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    Sargatanas
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    Archer Lv 80
    All Crit and whatever couldn't take crit got direct hit. Love seeing 11k Stone IV's.

    Omega savage could turn everything upside down though.
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    Last edited by xNewbx; 07-17-2017 at 07:48 AM.

  6. #16
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    KDSilver's Avatar
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    Shiru Elysia
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Yes, sorry, like I said, I've heared that DH was worth only if it reached 700+, but didn't verify it myself.
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  7. #17
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    Arnar Grande
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    Ultros
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Starflake View Post
    With Omega Savage tier coming out soon. I do wonder what kind of value Direct Hit has for healers. I know it does not affect healing, but I feel that it's still a useful stat. I don't value Spell Speed or Piety that much (until a certain amount is reached) and we don't know if DET is worth it. Any other healers out there who are going to try out Critical Hit as the first secondary stat and Direct Hit as the second one? Bad idea or good idea?
    I personally stacked Crit on WHM, but honestly DET isn't looking too bad either. Definitely for now it's a bad idea to use Direct Hit. We're not to the farming part yet. We're in progression.
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  8. #18
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    Kiui Malaguld
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    Siren
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    White Mage Lv 70
    I'll probably be leaning more on Det/SS and a bit of Crit.
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  9. #19
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    Ihza Mhaskova
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    Healers have by far the most options for melds.

    It all really does very based on which of the three classes you play, who you\\'re other healer is, and how the two of you play together.

    I go WHM and my usual co-healer is a SCH.

    I main heal, her fairy co-heals, and she heals as needed.

    My Thin Air, Presence of Mind, Shroud of Saints, and Divine Seal make it so that I can cover most of the healing while they focus on dps.

    To compensate I go with Critical Hit for bigger heals and then Spell Speed for faster heals and so I can quickly get off an Aero III.
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