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  1. #51
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    Fannah Loydera
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    Yes you are right, we can't just find out by discussing it here^^"
    Thank for your time, I just hoped there was like a well known issue about this and that one would know here. I hope I'm wrong and that if it's a bug here, that it doesn't affect many people.
    I'll try Elnidfse way.

    About how I removed the bugged shots, I just counted them and if for exemple there was 4 bugged shots, I just did 54 shots instead of 50 and removed the interval of the bugged ones.
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    Last edited by Fannah; 07-18-2017 at 12:15 AM.

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    Jezebeth Soulkeeper
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    Thise changes are pure and utter crap. We or atleast i want nothing but pure gun dps upgrade...they can sack that damm turret for all i care never liked it anyway its pure shait....even if it gace 10000000 damage it would still be a fu cking gimmik.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myon88 View Post
    I'm surprised they actually gave SCH back miasma 2, now if they could just give us back lead shot. Potencies and heat problems aside, lacking a way to multidot or pad on adds is still a very large weakness we have relative to bard now. Just what do they expect us to do if we get a fight with beefy, separated adds? (a1s, a2s, a11s lapis phase, etc).

    Heat I see as a good thing. Considering that our cooldown weaponskill is a thing and is technically a dps increase over heated split-slug-clean on average, having to cooldown more to handle heat is a good problem to have.
    What is it with you guys and your Infatuation with dots...lets talk DD its the ONLY real deal...dots my arse
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  4. #54
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    Myon Miya
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    Quote Originally Posted by poffo View Post
    What is it with you guys and your Infatuation with dots
    Would you rather someone gave you $100 right now, or $40 every month for the next 4 months? :^)
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    Quote Originally Posted by poffo View Post
    i want nothing but pure gun dps upgrade.
    We got a pure dps upgrade. About a 100 dps upgrade for free simply for keeping hotshot up. You're picking a strange war to fight for no discernable reason.

    Quote Originally Posted by poffo View Post
    lets talk DD its the ONLY real deal...dots my arse
    Apply your DD to two targets in two different locations at the same time. I dare you.
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  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myon88 View Post
    Would you rather someone gave you $100 right now, or $40 every month for the next 4 months? :^)
    MCH DoT was just the monitoring of Hotshots cooldown at the cost of 2 GCD's. It wasn't interesting. If you are that gungho about the damage, ask for the damage that a DoT would bring over the course of 30 seconds and have it spread among skills.

    Yes multidotting was a thing, but wasn't exactly the funnest thing ever either and was about the only merit it had to actually having it in our kit.
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    Not good enough to simply roll the damage a DoT would give you into your direct damage skills, as - as the person above you already pointed out - it doesn't do you any good in multi-target fights. Doing more damage is kind of a big 'merit', if you ask me.

    It's fine if you feel direct damage abilities are more fun to use, that's one way to enjoy the game. But fun is subjective so I wouldn't state that so confidently if I were you. And for those of us that care about efficiency and output there's really no replacement for a DoT. By design, they tend to be very powerful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myon88 View Post
    Not good enough to simply roll the damage a DoT would give you into your direct damage skills, as - as the person above you already pointed out - it doesn't do you any good in multi-target fights. Doing more damage is kind of a big 'merit', if you ask me.

    It's fine if you feel direct damage abilities are more fun to use, that's one way to enjoy the game. But fun is subjective so I wouldn't state that so confidently if I were you. And for those of us that care about efficiency and output there's really no replacement for a DoT. By design, they tend to be very powerful.
    Would hitting 1 extremely powerful button over and over be more fun for you though? I won't say "no" for you but lets be real. There's more to it than hitting for more damage- there is a fun element and if you were given more damage with fewer GCD's tied to the same management (Hot shot + Lead Shot) I can't see why you'd be opposed.
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    These changes are good and all, but they don't address one of the biggest elephants in the room -- the fact Gauss Barrel & the Heat Gauge are a detriment before you reach 62 for Cooldown. Everything makes sense for 70 onwards, sure, but the issue is going back and doing older content; which sometimes you've little choice in the matter, and having a dead weight in GB.
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    I don't see them fixing that soon unfortunately, it's too 'big' of a fix to do easily mid-expansion, and it doesn't help that core systems like level syncing are a very entrenched part of the game.

    Just a shame, there are other jobs that suffer greatly when they roulette into low level content too, and there are some (like Bard) that play almost the same. We're just unlucky that MCH got the short end of the stick there this time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Greedalox View Post
    Would hitting 1 extremely powerful button over and over be more fun for you though?
    I played a lot of Diablo back in the day, so I wouldn't be so quick to assume I'd say no :^) At the end of the day however reality is complicated and things fall on a spectrum. I like doing damage, and I also like fun playstyles, but it just so happens that the damage-ness of lead shot outweighs the tax on fun that it brings for me - it's just economics.

    And you know, multidotting things is fun for me too. I don't like the idea that if I'm being attacked by 4 things, I can only hit 1 of them at a time, barring AoE. I like knowing that they're all getting whittled down by a DoT before I switch my attention to each of them, so yeah, DoTs can be fun and unfortunately this is a subjective thing.
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    Last edited by Myon88; 07-18-2017 at 02:46 AM.

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