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  1. #141
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    Jelly Baby
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    Miner Lv 70
    I'm actually digging the idea of a "Beastmaster" type of role, maybe not call it that per say, but has animal instincts and abilities that reference said beasts. Rather than actually has a beast summon, it would be similar to the ninja's ability (no idea what its called) where the player jumps on a frog, the beast master (or whatever it would be called) would temporarily transform into said beast, say a lion and preform a slashing ability.

    There would be different "beast forms" or stances that the tank could take, for example;

    Turtle transformation/stance or for a defensive buff/parry/absorbtion, (there would obviously be other GCD's for damage mitigation)
    Lion transformation/stance for a slashing debuff/dot/high potency hit,
    Cactar transformation/stance which could add multiple debuffs

    Each rotation the tank would use a simple rotation, like 1 2 3 which would increase enmity, potency, mp regn or whatever, but each ability would have a separate effect when under a specific transformation. Each cool down of the transformation/stances would be on a 10 second or so cool down and as a finisher type move, similar to the Samurai you would preform a split second transform into a different beast, which could preform a version of all 3 stances combined, but on a longer cool down.

    You could also have a finisher for each transformation/stance too, which again, similar to other jobs would preform a higher potency version of said stance rather than just combining all 3 stances at once.

    So a rotation could go something like.

    1 2 3
    1 2 3 (4 5 6 - for whatever transformation/stance)
    1 2 3 (3 with added effects)
    1 2 3 7 (finisher)

    I'm also feeling for armour it could be cloth based rather than full metal suits and weapons should be 2 handed.

    Just an idea.
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    Last edited by Jelly_Baby; 08-10-2017 at 09:07 PM.

  2. #142
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    Claire Pendragon
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    Mateus
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ekimmak View Post
    I don't think I want another tank. At the moment, there's a lot of bitterness because we have three types of tank, but only two tankslots in Savage.

    You'd think that would mean just 1/3 of the tanks would be unhappy, but no, the only people who are (mostly) happy with how they are? Paladins.

    I'd rather they balance out the current tanks before adding new ones. I think the same thing is happening on the healer forums.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
    There being balance within a role should never dictate whether a new job can be created for that role. The jobs will never be perfectly balanced and any balance that is achieved will only be fleeting. One needs only look at the current tank situation to realize that. Every expansion will simply unbalance whatever balance was made before due to the increase in level and new abilities or simply bad decisions on the devs part.

    As such, it is an unacceptable excuse to use to delay or prevent a new job from being added to these roles. Period.
    There is ALWAYS a DPS who is OP/above the rest.
    There is ALWAYS a DPS who is the worst, and at the bottom.
    So long as 8 of them are roughly ok, the top 2 or bottom 2 arent as big of a deal.
    But when there is only 3 DPS, then everyone would be flipping their tops.

    Throw in 8 more tanks, and we'd see the same reaction to tanks, as we see towards DPS.
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    CLAIRE PENDRAGON

  3. #143
    Player Jhett_Magnum's Avatar
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    Zanku Hado
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    Charioteer if talking about the job from bravely second wouldn't really be a tank since it equipped extra weapons on its armor slots instead of armor XD
    Your parry rate will be so high you won't even notice
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  4. #144
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    Shippuu Nammuu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon View Post
    There is ALWAYS a DPS who is the worst, and at the bottom.
    And there will always be a tank and Healer that are the worst and at the bottom. The overall number of jobs in the role matter little and should still never be used as an excuse to exclude the notion of adding fresh new jobs to those roles.

    Those roles make up vital positions in a tightly trinity based game and the not insignificant % of players who play those roles (close to 50%) deserve variety and shiny new jobs as well.

    No other mmo has used role job balance as an excuse to not create certain role jobs. Even WoW has consistently added new tank jobs despite its constant absolutely horrendous class balance at all times.
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  5. #145
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    Yesui Himaa
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Mekhana View Post
    SE can't handle 3 much less four. Instead of adding new jobs they should branch off current ones. Like Paladin into Holy Knight and SCH into Time Mage for instance. It might not even be possible with engine/server limitations but it would be pretty cool.
    AST is the Time Mage (Gravity, multiple time-based buff extenders, Comet/Meteor-like attacks).
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  6. #146
    Player Jhett_Magnum's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by jstamos View Post
    AST is the Time Mage (Gravity, multiple time-based buff extenders, Comet/Meteor-like attacks).
    Yoshi P said Time mage was almost considered for SB. I imagine they would have changed the BLMs lv 3 limit break to Ultima and TIM would have gotten Meteor.
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  7. #147
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jhett_Magnum View Post
    TIM would have gotten Meteor.
    Wait, I thought you were talking about Time Mage not Enchanter.

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  8. 08-11-2017 08:36 PM
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    Nevermind. I was incorrect.

  9. #148
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    Shadelia Sunshooter
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    Adamantoise
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    Summoner Lv 100
    i wish the next tank will be defender which can equip a tower shield, not a kite shield like paladin, and can flail or 1 hand spear/halberb weapon

    his skill will focus on weaken enemy and reflect damage
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    Last edited by ShariusTC; 08-11-2017 at 08:44 PM.

  10. #149
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    Zohar Lahar
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    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    Blue Mage with clubs and eclectic spells. Or.....Legatus with Gunblades and magitek support.
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  11. #150
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    Viola Cruxis
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    There were actually rumors flying around way back when that Musketeer was going to be a tank.

    That'd fulfill Yoshida's prophecy of (loosely quoted) "Now that most iconic FF jobs are in we can make something new and unique to XIV" and that the next job set will be tanks and healers.
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