What should be the next tank job

[Kohta]

Judge, with the ability to switch stances from turning abilities from close range to long range on the fly like Guass Barrel, and be able to maintain threat when you have to create a gap, but in long range mode judges can only walk, not run. Similar to anticipation a judge can foresee an incoming attack to dodge it completely or parry at a higher reduction rate, also add that damage taken from enemies activates spikes that can proc additional effects such as paralyze from ice spikes, burn from blaze spikes etc. Defensively, judges can silence and stun ogcd and have a provoke that can't be reversed for several seconds. Please and thank you.

[Dortharl]

I was think a whole new class that uses chains rather than swords or spears, they can use Heavy armour but also use the chains to block attacks.

[Freyyy]

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Don't worry man I actually like your idea, but the artwork you picked was so DRK-like that I had to make that joke. I really like the chains on it btw.

[RitsukoSonoda]

I think we need another tank class that actually uses a shield

Templar 1H pike + shield
Viking 1H axe + shield
Something that uses a mace or Warhammer + shield
Something that dual wields shields? >.>

Other than that from a gameplay mechanics type standpoint.
New tank with heavy counter action focus on abilities or reactive abilities in response to various triggers.
One that has a variety of support oriented abilities that buff allies
One that mitigates damage not by buffing itself but by debilitating enemies making them deal less damage.

[Ekimmak]

I don't think I want another tank. At the moment, there's a lot of bitterness because we have three types of tank, but only two tankslots in Savage.

You'd think that would mean just 1/3 of the tanks would be unhappy, but no, the only people who are (mostly) happy with how they are? Paladins.

I'd rather they balance out the current tanks before adding new ones. I think the same thing is happening on the healer forums.

[Shippuu]

I don't think I want another tank. At the moment, there's a lot of bitterness because we have three types of tank, but only two tankslots in Savage.

You'd think that would mean just 1/3 of the tanks would be unhappy, but no, the only people who are (mostly) happy with how they are? Paladins.

I'd rather they balance out the current tanks before adding new ones. I think the same thing is happening on the healer forums.

There being balance within a role should never dictate whether a new job can be created for that role. The jobs will never be perfectly balanced and any balance that is achieved will only be fleeting. One needs only look at the current tank situation to realize that. Every expansion will simply unbalance whatever balance was made before due to the increase in level and new abilities or simply bad decisions on the devs part.

As such, it is an unacceptable excuse to use to delay or prevent a new job from being added to these roles. Period.

[RYT]

Awwwyiss—Blue mage-knight with (chained) mace. Job Quests with monster hunting for the monster abilities. Hmm...

[mosaicex]

I don't think I want another tank. At the moment, there's a lot of bitterness because we have three types of tank, but only two tankslots in Savage.

You'd think that would mean just 1/3 of the tanks would be unhappy, but no, the only people who are (mostly) happy with how they are? Paladins.

I'd rather they balance out the current tanks before adding new ones. I think the same thing is happening on the healer forums.

And there are 9 dps jobs but only 4 dps slots

If you think one tank has it bad then I would like to point you to MCH, SMN, BLM, DRG and MNK.



But hey, DPS balance was never a consideration when adding new jobs, was it?

[RitsukoSonoda]

Jobs/classes are never going to be balanced on any MMO no matter how hard game devs try.

One thing in FFXI I kind of feel like would do well on FFXIV to atleast give each job some niche where they excel

FFXI monsters had more defined weaknesses and resistances to elements and damage types including physical damage. Example. Skeleton enemies were resistance to piercing damage but weak to blunt damage. Because of this typical drg and rng would do less damage but mnk would destroy them. Some enemies were just highly resistant to physical or magical damage in general or specific elemental damage.

This really atm wouldn't have too much impact on tanks though aside from only drk and pld having a form of magic damage because the weapon choices on the tanks all deal the same type of physical damage.

The focus I think they need to take is to tweak the game and jobs in general so that each job can atleast have 1 area they can shine at and add more variety to the options in each role.

[FallenWings]

"But the people who play tanks will still play tanks and the people who play DPS will still play DPS! Nevermind the possibility that the some people may want to play tanks if there was a job more to their liking or that the tank players we are relying on to keep playing tanks might get bored of their meager 3 choices!"

"We don't want to add more tanks because we want to fix tank balance! So we will do that by swapping WAR and PLD around!"

"Besides, people only play DPS so it's only natural that we should make more DPS jobs to appeal to the wider audience! Forget about those tank players we rely on to make DF work at a reasonable rate because they're not worth the investment!"


... Ahem.

The next tank job should be Hell Knight. Just delete WAR and DRK and fuse them together to make Hell Knight. Give me that Berserked Dark Arts Fell Spiller. :^)