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    32 bit. And they won't drop that support until 5.0
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  2. #12
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    Trixie Lulamoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    But these machines mostly just collect dust. People are too lazy to migrate their data, and not competent enough to deal with virtual machines.
    Its cause companies don't like to upgrade do to money; Nor do thy update their OS with patches fearing it'll make their software or hardware not work. My work place uses XP, and a BAM had 3.11 on their cash registers last time I went there.
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  3. #13
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    Skadi Felis
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    Next in 5.0 : abandoning support of 32 bit OS
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  4. #14
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    Kisa Kisa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zachary View Post
    Its cause companies don't like to upgrade do to money; Nor do thy update their OS with patches fearing it'll make their software or hardware not work. My work place uses XP, and a BAM had 3.11 on their cash registers last time I went there.
    Because a cash register doesn't need to do anything else. Why would a grocery store upgrade their point of sales system when it works just fine.

    Out here, every single grocery and drug store is still using the exact same IBM 386-era hardware LED displays, cash drawers, and so forth, but they've added a LCD panel that shows your receipt being built in real time instead of what used to happen in the 80's where it was printed one line at a time and if you changed your mind on something they had to take a pen and cross things off the receipt. They started adding these things around 2004 (Walmart was first) and have barely changed since.

    Same with your fast food places. They all upgraded to touch screen systems some time ago, but they're never going to replace those any time soon. We're now moving to the "self-serve" kiosk model where you order everything at the kiosk or on your cell phone, and then just show the order number to the person at the restaurant, despite this clearly being abusable.

    Yes, many places do hold onto hardware for ages, but these are usually "embedded" markets, not office PC's. Small businesses tend to have to upgrade in a faster cycle or they don't get to write it off for tax purposes. But those write offs have to span several years, so it may take 10 years to completely write off a $10,000 purchase, when it's warranty only lasts 3 years and is considered obsolete after 7.
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  5. #15
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Next in 5.0 : abandoning support of 32 bit OS
    They don't even make 32 bit cpus these days and haven't for awhile. Only if you got a really old cpu would it be 32 bit and probably wouldn't play FFXIV.
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  6. #16
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    Alael Sasaki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    that 4 gig memory limitation. Which means they have to design the game to use less than that. Much less, because they have to account for the OS overhead, background programs, and the like. Thats why he was asking people to please change to 64-bit OS's at the fanfest.
    To honest thats a flat out lies, I'm in Kugane and look how much memory it use, Take in account max setting at 4k here:

    https://gyazo.com/a77eaa5d93cdf1b75ba03278f7e8d4ed
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  7. #17
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Alael View Post
    To honest thats a flat out lies, I'm in Kugane and look how much memory it use, Take in account max setting at 4k here:

    https://gyazo.com/a77eaa5d93cdf1b75ba03278f7e8d4ed
    I mean, less than 2 gigs is much less than 4 gigs. Not lying. For me, at max settings at 1080p, its 1.1gigs.

    I'm not sure where you refuted my point.
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    Last edited by Valkyrie_Lenneth; 07-16-2017 at 07:40 AM.

  8. #18
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    Renard Lefeuvre
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    It's 32-bit PCs. And while you may be well off and in a PC-friendly country and be rocking a 64-bit rig - even I have only 64-bit machines and I don't have a PC capable of running this game - many people aren't. More to the point, many people in Japan who have PCs are using ancient toasters with actual gaming PCs being viewed as rather nerdy luxuries. That's why Yoshida has started begging people to upgrade so early and highlighting shortcomings caused by 32-bit limitations. They'll drop 32-bit support eventually, but until then he needs people to consider moving to modern PCs or consoles if possible.

    Of course, some people will just blame consoles regardless.
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  9. #19
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    Ratithgar Jovasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Next in 5.0 : abandoning support of 32 bit OS
    Should have a long time ago. Stop trying to play modern games on your Zune.
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Next in 5.0 : abandoning support of 32 bit OS
    If the PlayStation audience is as significant as it seems, I half expect FFXIV 5.0 to be a "launch title" for PlayStation 5, whic might release in Fall 2019......
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