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Thread: Thoughts on rdm

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    Thoughts on rdm

    A caster with nfinite swift cast, heals, mobility, and short hard cast times. This is a problem.
    "But if I rez I'm not dpsing"

    You have the OPTION to be a mini healer then go back to out dpsing the other casters we dont get that.*

    I think dual cast should be reduced to a proc like fire starter, not a guarantee (keep acceleration like sharp cast )

    And since it's blm magic in lore give them our cast times. Or make the verprocs the instant cast.

    Blm being the only caster with 0 utility or rez would be like if drk was the only tank with no flash equivalent, would you bring it to runs?
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    I still don't see the problem, you say it is..but fail to prove it to me. It just seems like you don't like a red mage being a red mage.
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    Come on man another thread for this? If RDM needed anything, all they would need is a few potency reductions. Don't touch their playstyle, or their identity. They wont change RDM for a least a few months so just hope the tuesday buffs for the other casters is good.
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    You want RDM to be a shittier 2.x BLM. Gotcha.
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    So because you enjoy being op it should be ignored? Got it.

    Yes they should be a shit tier blm

    Its blm WHM melee hybrid

    Jack of all trades shouldn't be master of any
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genoreaper View Post
    So because you enjoy being op it should be ignored? Got it.

    Yes they should be a shit tier blm
    Because you say so SE should uproot RDM entirely because you don't like how the job doesn't fit your vision of RDM being something for early and mid tier content but never end tier. Big reason RDM is even OP atm is because of a glitch that will hopefully get fixed, otherwise BLM not only hits harder per spell now, but will be buffed even more on Tuesday.

    Also funfact: if you *just* use black mana, you'll be crap. If you *just* use white mana, you'll be crap. If you *just* use melee, you'll be crap. RDM's strength comes from combining all three.
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    I love how you just want to screw up the class that other people have fallen in love with because...reasons? If you're so in awe of all the goodies that RDMs have then just play one.

    Simple pimple.
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    screw it, just give BLMs our heal and rez and embolden.

    just take them from RDM and give them to BLM and don't change anything else.

    now GTFO.

    that's what OP really wants.
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    RDM doesn't have any changes in 4.05. And I see no reason for them to change it like that at all.
    Actually boost RDM even more. Why not
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genoreaper View Post
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    The only thing you can question about RDM is Embolden... the heal and the raise are nice, but RDM's real value is synergizing with physical comps- that's RDM's real value.
    The raise and cure are not a game changer.
    It's also come to my attention that there's a RDM bug that makes it have waaay more dps than it should.
    (I tested- 3.4 on Lak without abusing and 3.7/8 absuing it).
    We need to wait a see how much correcting that bug affects the real dps statistics of RDM. No point in taking any conclusions before that happens.
    And come on. Another thread about this...
    (I answered just to clarify that it's Embolden and physical synergy that popularise RDM, and not the raise and heal).

    And please don't take this the wrong way, but your BLM isn't even 70... isn't it a bit early for you to be concerned about meta comps?

    EDIT: and please don't touch Dualcast. You can adjust numbers as necessary, but I think it's quite charming that BLM and RDM stand on the two opposite ends of the caster spectrum- one is highly mobile and the other is an immobile cannon.
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    Last edited by Galvuu; 07-17-2017 at 06:12 AM.

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