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    Tint's Avatar
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    Karuru Karu
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maeka View Post
    You didn't slot Convalescence? Are you crazy? Conva is very powerful.
    yeah, conva is a powerfull skill... however, the problem is the long cooldown. rampart for 20 seconds, shadow wall for 10 seconds, convalescence for 20 seconds and then minutes of waiting without any mitigation for those trash pulls. either i only have for like 20 seconds per trash group a cooldown running, wich is too short, or i have nothing at all for every second group.
    i rather use Anticipation wich is weaker, but with 20 seconds duration and only 60 seconds cooldown fills the gap between the other cooldowns much better.

    i use Provoke, Rampart, Anticipation, Low Blow and Reprisal.
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    Leigaon's Avatar
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    Zara Diaspora
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    I, like others have posted, agree that many of these are staples. I think though this is their way of testing the waters with role based actions....

    I think what they'll end up doing is make increase the role actions slots / add more role based actions and make some of the mandatory ones permanent, and some you can weave in and out.

    Pretty much that would be their way of saying "Okay you all have rampart, but you can't change it out b/c you all say you don't need to" give an extra slot for other customization and add a few more from there.

    Something like Shirk is great so I'd like to see more of that.

    Though, I think a lot of it for me has to do with the fact that I am so use to these moves I'm afraid of using other things. I had a healer who didn't have Esuna, instead used Rescue to sprint and pull moves to me and pull me to them when they could...i guess that's ok.

    I know on my healer I have Largesse, but I rarely ever use it. I know I'm afraid to take it off because I'll get that tank who stays in DPS stance and uses only FoF or Berserk as their only buff.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    i use Provoke, Rampart, Anticipation, Low Blow and Reprisal.
    I will admit the more I think about it and my past expierences taking a Tank in 4.0, Convalescence is nice if I'm doing giant pulls but otherwise it's not the saving grace I praised it to be. In which case Anticipation would be a nicer route to take.

    I don't see the point of Interject though, maybe that's more of a raid thing. Only thing I remember having to use it on was Coil turn 1.

    Their intentions are good, I like it and I hope they expand on it. This way they can make moves that are powerful but without the staple. Shirk is a wonderful tool

    I do like the other skills that can help other party members too, like Goad, Crutch and other moves that if used properly bring you together as a party. I just don't think anyone cares to use them which is sad.
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    Last edited by Leigaon; 07-19-2017 at 11:48 PM.

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    Misutoraru's Avatar
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    Misutoraru Valkyrie
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    yeah, conva is a powerfull skill... however, the problem is the long cooldown. rampart for 20 seconds, shadow wall for 10 seconds, convalescence for 20 seconds and then minutes of waiting without any mitigation for those trash pulls. either i only have for like 20 seconds per trash group a cooldown running, wich is too short, or i have nothing at all for every second group.
    i rather use Anticipation wich is weaker, but with 20 seconds duration and only 60 seconds cooldown fills the gap between the other cooldowns much better.

    i use Provoke, Rampart, Anticipation, Low Blow and Reprisal.
    i am using Anticipation instead of convalescence too

    i do not do crazy large group pull, usually just 2-3 trash groups, a shorter CD, more uptime would benefit me more

    unfortunately I have to switch out Anticipation for my WAR for Ultimatum because of the lose of Flash and the combination of tricky positioning of Overpower + it high TP cost
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