Thread: Healer adjustment in 4.05

I'm fairy certain we'll have some more tweaks left and right that weren't mentioned. Just see what the letter says tomorrow. All else is useless speculation at this point and assumptions.

Originally Posted by Katryn

This is all much ado about nothing for several reasons:

1) Classes that are more difficult to play should be more desirable in long term high end content than classes that are easy. I am a WHM main and it in no way surprises or offends me that WHM is not ideally suited for long term savage viability.

Please don't take this personally, but this is a horrible, HORRIBLE design choice and completely against the philosophy that SE preaches, as evidenced by their response about MCH being too hard in the last live letter. They said something to the effect of "[we don't plan to make its DPS higher than Bard and/or nerfing its difficulty because] when you choose to play a job, you choose to immerse yourself in the experience that job offers".

If only the "most difficult" jobs were viable at Savage, we'd literally see only ONE or maybe TWO viable Savage comps because no sane person would take the "easier" jobs. Does this sound good to anybody?

Furthermore, difficulty (to a certain extent) is subjective. I've seen people have MASSIVE discrepancies as to which jobs in this game are the hardest because they demand different skills. If you want to see this concept pushed to the extreme, go look at any popular MOBA and try to get players to come to a consensus on which characters are the hardest to play. And when it comes to WHM, the difficulty at higher levels becomes maximizing damage GCDs by managing oGCDs, something that is far more important to WHM than it is to AST.

The only time you could justify tuning the output (on a dummy) of one job to be slightly higher than its counterparts is if it has mechanics that make it LITERALLY or NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE to perform optimally in a real world fight with any difficulty. For example, BLM is generally punished more by mechanics, and SMN and DRG have restrictive burst windows which almost never sync well with transitions. Skilled players are able to MINIMIZE, but very rarely ELIMINATE, these disadvantages.

Random food for thought.

Three different world first capable teams are running three different healer compositions.

Elysium is running WHM/SCH
Angered is running AST/WHM
Solitude is running AST/SCH

It's an interesting thing to see that three different teams can see viability in all different types of combinations.

Originally Posted by Ghishlain

Random food for thought.

Three different world first capable teams are running three different healer compositions.

Elysium is running WHM/SCH
Angered is running AST/WHM
Solitude is running AST/SCH

It's an interesting thing to see that three different teams can see viability in all different types of combinations.

Nice! What's even more interesting is that each healer is represented twice and no one is excluded.

Originally Posted by Ghishlain

Random food for thought.

Three different world first capable teams are running three different healer compositions.

Elysium is running WHM/SCH
Angered is running AST/WHM
Solitude is running AST/SCH

It's an interesting thing to see that three different teams can see viability in all different types of combinations.

So what you're saying is all combinations are viable in raid for the top 1% players. I wonder if people will stop thinking the sky is falling.

Originally Posted by RukiaFae

So what you're saying is all combinations are viable in raid for the top 1% players. I wonder if people will stop thinking the sky is falling.

Indeed. While there will always be the one true super optimal composition in the game, I'd like to think there's enough differences in the healer kits to warrant bringing what you enjoy even if it comes at a slightly sub-optimal total performance. You'll most likely play a kit you enjoy at a higher optimization level than a kit you absolutely abhor.