Not again...

[Remiilia-vermilion]

So.. I'll ask again.. why are "some" ppl are going crazy about the pld nerf and talking about the meta while the current pld does 200+ more dps than war (talking about dps only) and drk is even below war? Can I get a sane pld who's not screaming or going crazy while trying to explain?

[SunAurel]

So.. I'll ask again.. why are "some" ppl are going crazy about the pld nerf and talking about the meta while the current pld does 200+ more dps than war (talking about dps only) and drk is even below war? Can I get a sane pld who's not screaming or going crazy while trying to explain?

we are not going crazy about the warrior / drk buffs, we stand behind them and they were needed
we are against an additional nerf to paladin with those buffs

[MyaValentine]

So.. I'll ask again.. trying to explain?

Because you are assuming that anyone in their right mind is saying that currently all tanks are balance, they are obviously not paladin currently has the highest dps and that's a fact, no one wants warrior to be this underpowered nor DRK WHICH is why we are glad they are getting buffed. What it's not right is nerfing pld but buffing them at the same time because we risk the same situation warrior is on right now but back again in heavenward style, with all the tank balance properly buff wise, there's no more party buff that offers more raid damage, the only factor left is personal dps and if we switch the spots now war gets buffed to be over 300+ dps over paladin guess who's gonna be once again preferred tank class for every single raid, right now what we need is the other 2 tanks up at the lvl of paladin and we've done it, we achieve tank balance. they all can mitigate and damage, extra utility tools won't kill one or the other along as the damage are fair. no one is going to pick a paladin over a warrior for clemency or a 15% raid shield that scholars and astro already can offer, I will be ok with war doing slightly more damage since they don't get a tank buster pt shield like paladin or DRK does but not so much extra that It will negate the other 2 utility.

also the main fuzz with this nerf is not the damage, I can atlas speak for myself that damage is the least of my concern but it's how the class feels, currently old feels complete, fun and powerful enough to feel than I'm not hitting wet noodles, the nerf is coming in the form of a slower cast time of HS which means we will not be able to properly use or mana, fit the same amount of holy spirit in the requiescats window and we will not be able to wage abilities in between hence making the class clunky more slow and fucks with the timing of the rotation and this is what bothers me I'd rather get a potency nerf than this.

[MyaValentine]

Okay, but you don't even know what that "nerf" is and you don't even know if the stance dance penalty removal will be a dps increase

stance dancing buff for paladin means absolutely nothing dps wise, the nerf was clearly stated that it will be a longer cast time and on a mr.happy video also said that the potency will take a hit, so this will mean we won't be able to use full mana on a requiescat window, we won't be able weave abilities in between and we will most likely loose any sort auto attack making a dps loss, but what It also does is making it like clemency 3.0 where the cast time/potency will not be worthy outside of buffed requiescats and you will no longer be able to throw in quick cast when you are out of range because of some AOE attacks, essentially making the class more clunky that what it feels now which is perfect. while the nerf isn't much, nerving pld while buffing the other 2 will risk HW to happen again meaning, war top dps required spot and pld and dark pulling their skin for the second spot. and what we want is every tank comp to be awesome not just war/drk, war/pld. I don't want pld to be top dps I want paladin to be fun which is what it's now.

[Tegernako]

while the nerf isn't much, nerving WAR while buffing the other 2 will risk SB to happen again meaning, PLD top dps required spot and WAR and dark pulling their skin for the second spot. and what we want is every tank comp to be awesome not just war/drk, war/pld. I don't want WAR to be top dps I want WAR to be fun which is what it's now.

Man it's freaking weird, it's basicaly what WAR players were saying lol. Actually, I took the liberty of replacing PLD with WAR because it's almost word for word the same stuff we were saying o.o


Course for some, it's only NOW an issu.

Especially the last part, more then anything I just wanted my class to be fun again yet i got told stuff like

1. You don't know all the changes. So why are you complaining?

2. It forces you to be more tactical.

3. You're not a dps, youre a tank.

*sighs*

People...

Irregardless, it's not long. Let's wait until the patch comes out, if it really does mess with the class that much I'll support...you...well...I'll support the class.