Not again...

[Brannigan]

Midas a7s and a8s are probably good examples of fights where pld's extra physical mitigation, divine veil and hallowed ground actually make them worth taking over drk unless you're doing speedkills where drk's higher dps makes it the optimal choice.

A8S is a tossup imo. Paladin made you a safer on late-phase tank busters (though you can probably just have warrior cheese them with Holmgang/all their shit) and lets you cheese land mines. Dark Knight let you neuter his AOEs, which are just as dangerous. A7S is similar where HG will let you cheese a couple tank busters but the real threat in that fight is actually Sizzlebeam and his AOE stuff. Divine Veil was wayyyyy too slow to make a difference vs DRK's int down/Reprisal. I did both these fights as paladin, but I think my group would have gotten them weeks earlier if I bit the bullet and played DRK again.

Unless they significantly lengthen the cast time, you should still be able to get 5 holy spirits in. You would just lose the ability to use ogcds between casts.

I'm really hoping they just nerf the potency and don't fuck with the cast time because oGCDs isn't even the biggest loss of being forced into a 2s+ cast. It's movement. Even on easy shit like Susanoo, half of my Requiescat windows line up with mechanics. Also, that's a longer time for which you're unable to block.

Well as someone who has done savage I would not expect for you to have that level of ignorance. Pld was out of the meta because of the meta itself not the class.

Also this is from a couple pages back but it's kind of incorrect. Both the party composition problems and paladin's weakness were to blame. Remember that at the start of HW, TP was an issue, potencies were lower, Clemency had a longer cast time, Divine Veil had a longer cooldown, Cover was still useless, Shield Oath had a higher penalty, and I think even Shield Swipe was still a GCD. Dark Knight's weakness to physical was also much less than paladin's weakness to magic, and paladin kind of cut it close on cooldowns even as late as Alexander Prime (which was doable, but unpleasant, and DRK was still better in every way). Really their only advantages were HG and Sheltron, which was amazing against Living Liquid but very hard to time and also completely useless against Manipulator and a few other fights.