Quote Originally Posted by kensatsu View Post
You can't bring all defensive utility and nice dps to one tank.
But playerbase think all is about dps. All the time.
Gordias bring this in the mind, but don't tell it was the case on A9s to A12s pls...
Now you won't change this bad mentality about tank dps now. and it make PLD to want equal dps instead of more defensive utility, because the first care of the playerbase is the dps, by the way, load of midcore savage raiders, think only about dps and put as a priority before the mecanics, it slow the progress a lot.
Ironically most of this playerbase aren't even qualified to complain about drk being ahead of pld in speedkills. How many of those who cleared a12s actually ever managed to tank the whole fight without tank stance? Most of the pugs I've seen still adopt the MT-OT, MH-OH style, with one MT turtle tanking in grit/shield oath and one MH healing nearly the whole time. If they complain about a12s being almost purely magic damage heavy and pld being bad there, sure, I agree that it's a very valid concern.

Gordias was famous for being dps check heavy, but people often forget that it's also difficult to optimize tanking/healing there (I never cleared a3s when it was current so I may not be qualified to comment on this either). Most of the damages going to tanks in a3s and a4s are actually cleaves with no cast bar, so planning and timing your mitigation cds for them to allow for less tank stance uptime is hard. On top of that a3s requires a lot of boss repositioning, so if the tank is bad at it, melees will lose a lot of positionals. Midas a7s and a8s are probably good examples of fights where pld's extra physical mitigation, divine veil and hallowed ground actually make them worth taking over drk unless you're doing speedkills where drk's higher dps makes it the optimal choice.