4.05 patch: to 7 Fell cleaves or not 7 Fell cleaves?

[Shinkyo]

With the 4.05 change capture in the live unofficial translation "Unchained and Inner Release will no longer cost IB", we've all started to glance at a 7 Fell Cleave Zerk/IR burst.

Just in case people didn't do the math (or didn't intuitively figured out), we have the following options:
- use 125 out of 130 gauge to do 7 FC and be left with 5 gauge (effectively missing on 10 gauge = 50 potency at best): 3940 total potency (including main + S.Path)

- use the full 130 gauge to do 6 FC + upheaval + 2 onslaughts: 4090 total potency (including main + S.Path)

tldr; The no cost to IR allows us to do 2 extra Onslaughts and is better than a 7th FC. Onslaught is becoming a bit more relevant as a DPS ability.

[Dizzy_Derp]

With the 4.05 change capture in the live unofficial translation "Unchained and Inner Release will no longer cost IB", we've all started to glance at a 7 Fell Cleave Zerk/IR burst.

Just in case people didn't do the math (or didn't intuitively figured out), we have the following options:
- use 125 out of 130 gauge to do 7 FC and be left with 5 gauge (effectively missing on 10 gauge = 50 potency at best): 3940 total potency (including main + S.Path)

- use the full 130 gauge to do 6 FC + upheaval + 2 onslaughts: 4090 total potency (including main + S.Path)

tldr; The no cost to IR allows us to do 2 extra Onslaughts and is better than a 7th FC. Onslaught is becoming a bit more relevant as a DPS ability.

No The 7 is a meme. With the changes you will do your same is rotation just with an onslaught. What you will do is
Eye -100 and Zerk
Heavy with Internal Release and Upheaval -90
Fell Cleave -65 into Onslaught -55
Fell Cleave -30 into Infuriate -80
Fell Cleave -55
Maim -65
Path -85
Fell Cleave -60
Fell Cleave -35
Fell Cleave -10
Still have no fkn idea to do with that leftover 10 but that's gonna be your highest possible potency ir

[Shinkyo]

Still have no fkn idea to do with that leftover 10 but that's gonna be your highest possible potency ir

Onslaught is 15s recast time (vs 20 IR duration) so you can fit another one at the end of you zerk/IR window.
Don't know why you wouldn't take the 100 potency for 10 gauge, which is better than a FC outside IR.

[aleph_null]

To fit 7 fell cleaves you need 100 gauge before berserk, infuriate ready, and you have to do maim and path inside your berserk and inner release duration. Since berserk and inner release are both 20s duration buffs, they fit at most 9 gcds, and the first as well as the last gcds of those 9 gcds must be fell cleaves, since otherwise you'd waste gauge by using maim while having 100 gauge.

This would imply that the 9 gcds under berserk must overlap with the 9 gcds under inner release, which is impossible at low sks. If you do heavy swing > inner release > berserk > etc, inner release won't last until the 9th gcd, which is a fell cleave. On the other hand if you do heavy swing > berserk > inner release > etc, berserk won't last until your last fell cleave. To circumvent this you'd need pretty high sks.

@dizzy: you can slip in another onslaught there.

[Dizzy_Derp]

@dizzy: you can slip in another onslaught there.

Oh yeah well that kinda obvious now that you say It -_- my math skillz are whak.

[Ekimmak]

Two onslaughts and an upheaval sound good to sneak in.

[DeadlockRahl]

So still the same preparation before popping Beserk and Inner Release.

100 Beast Gauge - Check
Storm's Eye Rotation was the last rotation used - Check
One Heavy swing before Zerk and IR - Check


God forbid anything happens after you pop them. Stun, knockback or something sends all that preparation shit down the drain.

[Ekimmak]

Stun, knockback or something sends all that preparation shit down the drain.

IE the entire Susano ex fight. Despite being 1 out of 7 possible targets, I seem to recall him targeting me for RNG mechanics more often than not when i prepare for an Inner Release. Or maybe just a fallacy.

[samanator13]

God forbid anything happens after you pop them. Stun, knockback or something sends all that preparation shit down the drain.

Doesn't Inner Release negate Knockback/Stun/Bind/Heavy/Drawn in effects?

[ArianeEwah]

It does in dungeons, some old primals, e.g. Sophia, head/wind III knockback and meteor pull, and critters. But god forbid this ability actually working in content that matters. In Susano, you still can get stunned, Lakshmi still draws you into this bleeding field and you get thrown off platform without Vril.

Still I like this change and I ain't even bothered by the fact that we still have to pay 20 gauge points for onslaught.