How can you continue to ignore monk completely?

[silentwindfr]

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No! all your question are legitimate... when we look at the combat revamp that was done, we can't simply accept it without ask ourself...why?
i can add more why to your list:
- why didn't we get back simian strike back from the V1?
- why are we the only jobs that when mess up get punished? (gl stack lost is a heavy punishement and can happend easily)
- why are we the only jobs that don't have a ranged attack? (yes every jobs outside monk have a ranged attack, to add to the insult, the boss of the monk quest level 60 have a freaking ranged attack)
- why are we the only jobs that feel like out the place each time? (we don't get a clear role, even more now in SB, are we truely a dps? when we see that we do get a survival skill of tank i'm wondering)
- why we was left in this states after the combat revamp?
- why aren't we listened since we are technically the people that know the best the monk... since we play it a lot?
- why add utility to the monk when you add samurai that have no utility? (don't it will have been better to the monk to be the counter part of the sam, while making his damage resistance reduction apply for magic making the jobs be what the magical class need)

it's possible to continue... the trouble is, we don't have a clear discution with the dev team, it seems they get the feedback, but don't understand it... what is leading to that situation. i feel before do anything, they need to talk to us, to listen to us, since in the end...we will be the monk, we will be the one playing it. if it don't appeal us, it's pointless, if it feel bad for us to play it.... it's pointless.

i hope a community manager will pass this message to yoshida and his team, we are not appealing by the monk anymore, the jobs do his role, but is not fun. it's not appealing, it's not challenging, it's not evoluting anymore. we feel like the black sheep of the familly that don't deserve a decent treatment. like because we are top dps we don't need to be look at correctly... when it's not like this... if the other jobs evolve and we don't, you can't expect us to continue to stick to the job when every one evolve, change, get a feeling of progression.

please tell them we want to talk, we need to talk to have a clear discution between them and us. we feel disconnected, we feel abandonned, we feel left out. i'm not english then i can't even express correctly what i feel. exept i'm heartbroken to see the monk in this sorry states. i know that change can't be made in one week or 1 month... i'm not stupid i know it will take time, but at least... communicate with us, we are the community that can endure if you talk to us, if you show that you understand what we try desperatly to say to you.

monk need a serious rework... is not a balance patch, it's really a rework that it's needed... the rework we was deserving to receive with SB. and i doubt any monk will wait until the next expansion for see any change, you did reach a critical breaking point. after what was the situation of the end of hw.... we didn't get out of it, it's even worst... monk don't bring anything worth that justify his presence in group. he don't have a role definite, he don't have a clear identity anymore. it's time to work with us... than against us. please, pretty please.... don't leave u anymore in this mess.

You find MNK boring and unrewarding...

Perhaps don't play it?.....Simple solutions to a simple problem.

i'm one of the people that did stick to monk for age and i'm not the only one in this case, when people like us feel that something is really wrong, not because the class did change, no because the class didn't change... it's extremely bad. say to that sort of people if you don't like don't play it... will only have one effect, less and less and less monk, until, it's too late and the jobs is not played anymore.

our population is slowly reducing with every patch now, to the point that it's not even a bother to say we don't need monk, that monk can be deleted... that it's the point we are.
we don't ask to be the top dps, we don't ask to be cheated or get the most attention because we don't like the change... but because sb didn't change anything, honestly speaking most of the add was... meh or even here for compensate of some loose from the combat system revamp.

then no your way to say it is only insulting to us... because right now, we are not simply saying: "warning what you plan to do is bad" no we are passed this time... it's: "it's critical, if you don't react, we will disappear"
yes a few new player will try monk, until they try another jobs and we will feel more rewarded for appealed to play.

because monk is not the only fast jobs anymore, ninja do it too and fairly well with that.

because monk is not the top dps anymore, sam it is and it deserve it.

because monk combo is not the top edge anymore, dragoon have a more evolued combo system than us.

because monk have nothing more than it defining him... because monk is now in a situation where utility will not help... we need a rework. we need to have a clear identity, what we don't have anymore!

[Paladinleeds]

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You're right. All the points are legitimate, but one thing that confuses the heck outta me is the way that physical damage is broken up by type:
Slashing: PLD, WAR, DRK, NIN, SAM
Piercing: DRG, BRD, MCH (I think BRD/MCH use piercing, since they use arrows and gunshots. Someone correct me if I'm wrong here!)
Blunt: MNK

This creates a huge problem, because the piercing debuff of DRG will benefit your BRD/MCH (assuming BRD/MCH are piercing damage), creating some synergy, your slashing debuff of NIN (and WAR I think), synergises with the other tanks, and the SAM. MNK's blunt resistance down affects whom now... just them. SAM is the selfish DPS and gets boosted further by the synergy of a NIN or a WAR's slashing debuff. Which makes them even more powerful compared to MNK. Especially in higher tier play, synergy is a big factor. We need a good party makeup that works well with each other. I know you said we shouldn't wait until next expansion but here's what I would do, but it would have to be next expansion.
New healer: Dancer. Off-healer type role, their magic would be healing only, all attacks would be physical blunt damage and would be used to channel their healing power (thus giving them a reason to DPS!)
New tank: Not sure what tank you'd think of, but something that uses blunt weapons. Maybe make it defensive based like PLD?

This would then give the MNK some synergy with other jobs, and help give them a reason to exist. They would have other jobs that can match up with. I think this would go a long way to helping bridge the gap. There's many other issues here, but I feel this is one I can see the need addressing.

[Xau]

because monk have nothing more than it defining him...

actually we have something what define us, something what... well, repels most people actually

positionals, tons of them, something what for some reason a lot of people(except us monk mains) dislikes like hot lava