How can you continue to ignore monk completely?

[Berethos]

Give me a sec to find the lodestone ones.

If you read my edit, you'll find you've no reason to go to all this extra effort.

I was never saying it has no issues, I simply took umbrage with the idea that asking one specific question on specific issue was somehow the proof instead of all the other threads and discussions being the actual proof of how the Monk player base feels.

Ya'll need to slow up a bit and consider what others are actually saying instead of piling on with a hot take.

[Tigerlilley]

Your backtracking edit is, how you put it, a dragoon sized level leap that you've taken against one persons choice of words. Actually now that I go back and look, you're the one who's talking about "proof". If you look through the posts I linked, even just a quick glance at, majority are really unhappy with Riddle of Fire and its slow speed and how it affects Monk as a whole. Are you suggesting that RoF, monks defining dps burst skill, and the discontentment around it, is not indicative of players dissatisfaction with monk?

If you agree that monk has issues, what are you arguing, exactly?

Haven't read too much into MNK, but the Tackle mastery would've made more sense if they implemented the changes to Tornado kick instead, and just change the effect of Tornado kick based on what riddle was currently active (Vuln up on mob, Potency buff, prevent stacks being consumed)
I'm nowhere near an experienced enough MNK to make any suggestions though.

Tornado kick is such a conundrum skill with monk. Everything in the class is based around keeping stacks and how important it is to keep them, Riddle of Earth being another example of (even though its weirdly implemented) keeping stacks.

Yet Tornado kick exists as it is.

Your idea is much better :/

[Berethos]

If you agree that monk has issues, what are you arguing, exactly?

That one person's post (that isn't even yours, so not sure why you've decided to aim your angst at me) claiming that one specific question was proof of all of the unhappiness found in the Monk community is a stretch.

It was and still is a silly statement which boils down to "This person in a question said they didn't like how x feels, so that's clear proof that all players of that job are unhappy with it as a whole."

That being said, it's clear that you'll go out of your way to misinterpret and blow out of proportion responses you don't care for, so have fun in this overwrought thread of yours.

Edit to add, because I'm feeling nitpicky - backtracking implies that I went back and changed my statement to contradict what I originally said, and at no point have I done that. I added clarification to my original point as I re-read my post after posting as I felt such clarification was needed (and given how quickly my criticism of part of an argument was misinterpreted to somehow mean I thought Monk has no issues right now or that the Monk community doesn't have issues, that clarification was clearly needed).

[Tigerlilley]

It was and still is a silly statement which boils down to "This person in a question said they didn't like how x feels, so that's clear proof that all players of that job are unhappy with it as a whole."

No one in this thread has said that except you, dude. You keep posting trying to make a point that... what? Monk is fine? Players think monk is fine? Riddle is not indicative of Monk as a whole despite it being their main 4.0 buff? I posted you a bunch of links i found in 5 seconds to contradict that, and the idea that this thread is overwrought. Are you really going to beat a dead horse over something you think someone else implied, in an opinion that, as you've said that monk indeed has issues, is no different to your own?