How can you continue to ignore monk completely?

[YitharV2]

Part of the fun factor of monk was the speed and riddle of fire removes that completely ever x seconds so there is one obvious negative of the skill. It also makes the timers more annoying and harder to optimize your clipping since your GCDs are longer. Also with riddle of fire, I think it is even easier for new players to mess up opener and screw up their rotation based on mechanics due to the tighter timing on the GL and form timers. So overall riddle of fire reduces the fun factor and also makes the job harder to optimize for new players which is directly opposite of their desired goal for 4.0 which is to make jobs easier to play for players.

Yeah, same opinion here. My guess is it's related to Savage, but here's the thing. The majority of the playerbase doesn't do Savage. I would have loved a GL4 rather than this Riddle of Fire crap. The only problem is they'd have to probably change Perfect Balance because it's pretty tight as it is. The only reason GL4 would be more punishing is because GL3 is already punishing as it is when you lose your stacks, and SE hasn't changed PB nor have they given an ability to freeze your stacks. I mean, in dungeons, sometimes I have to go ahead of the tank if I want to keep my stacks because of how slow he's being. Riddle of Earth is okay, but I think the fact that you have to take damage to get GL3 is sort of stupid.

[Fredco191]

Jeez. Good thing I picked Samurai am I right?






i'm sorry

[Edana]

People are upset that monk is getting left out? That shit ha been happening since 3.0 anyone else remember the monk memes?

[Morzy]

People are upset that monk is getting left out? That shit ha been happening since 3.0 anyone else remember the monk memes?

I loved Monk in 3.0. There was nothing wrong with it. They fixed our TP issue and gave us a awesome 30 second AOE. I was happy.

[Coatl]

Is MNK really that unfun to play? I always roll my eyes when I hear those words being flung around for classes I still play and enjoy, but I don't play MNK so I can't make a similar stand there. Let's skip the tedious shebang about MNK being unfun and start dissecting exactly is it about MNK that you find unfun?

[Tigerlilley]

Uhh..
There's 4 pages of comments that have mentioned specifically what has made monk unfun to play, right down to the skill name. I'm not sure how else to break it down for you.

We have had more taken away than what we have gained.

[ItaruKarin]

Is MNK really that unfun to play? I always roll my eyes when I hear those words being flung around for classes I still play and enjoy, but I don't play MNK so I can't make a similar stand there. Let's skip the tedious shebang about MNK being unfun and start dissecting exactly is it about MNK that you find unfun?

I'd say that what makes monk unfun is the simplicity of the rotation. It's difficult to explain just how simple it is. You just repeat a three-step rotation, with the last hit changing every three repetition. And you have a few OGCD to weave. That's Monk. That's the entire Monk job. It was always easy of course, but at least in HW you had 2 more dots to maintain (Fracture and Touch of Death). Now that these are gone, I realize just how utterly DULL it is.

Now there's also the fact that out new Blood for Blood replacement slows us down terribly, which makes it feels like a debuff, and makes the class feel even more empty. We really don't need more time to think about our next step in the rotation, because it's always the same freaking button. There's also the fact that the Tackle Mastery feel incredibly bland. The fact that Riddle of Earth, which should allow us to refresh our stacks, feels clunky and ultimately useless thanks to all the boss jumps that last forever.

Overall though, it's mostly that the class is mind numbing 1-2-3 rinse and repeat while hoping the boss doesn't target you for any mechanic whatsoever.

[YitharV2]

I'd say that what makes monk unfun is the simplicity of the rotation.

I'd argue this is a major FFXIV problem, not just with Monk, although I haven't played BRD or MCH. Especially with tanks. Like on Warrior, you have 1-2-3 Butcher's Block, 1-4-5 Storm's Eye, 1-4-6 Storm's Path. There's very little variety and choice you can make. It's too simple. I could go on but I've already written a lengthy piece about tanks in general.

[Morzy]

I'd argue this is a major FFXIV problem, not just with Monk, although I haven't played BRD or MCH. Especially with tanks. Like on Warrior, you have 1-2-3 Butcher's Block, 1-4-5 Storm's Eye, 1-4-6 Storm's Path. There's very little variety and choice you can make. It's too simple. I could go on but I've already written a lengthy piece about tanks in general.

But see this is what set monk apart. Out of all of the classes Monk was the fastest and it kept you busy! Now they threw a wrench in that system and I hate it. <.<

[Nhisso]

I play a 48 monk. Even with proper gear and being higher level than enemies, monk feels boring and weak and i cant wait to hit 50 to switch to samurai.


But dont get rid of shoulder tackle. All melee classes should have a rush-to-enemy skill in MMOs
But yeah, the monk feels very weak and seems to get weaker as it levels and does appropriate content. Even tanks feel more badass as you progress.