How can you continue to ignore monk completely?

[Rufalus]

I don't really agree with certain monk skills being useless. They are all situationally useful which I think is ok. Things don't all need to be raid utility or used every fight imo. From skiming this thread the idea I like the most is more options for spending chakra. Oh and a temporary GL4 state sounds interesting like how Drg only gets LotD state for temporary duration. For the arguably stale old pugilist GCD combos you could trait some into new upgraded weaponskills with additional effect that alters how often they need to be used.

[Fendred]

Anyone ever run into a situation where one Inch punch was consistently useful?

[Stormfur]

I literally took one-ilm and Arm off my hotbar because I used them so seldom.

Monk was the second class I ever leveled in this game. It holds a special place in my heart, even if I switched to Samurai as main. I just got my monk to 70 recently in Stormblood and I wish that positionals weren't SUCH a focus. It's fine to have a few like Dragoon and Samurai do, but it just feels like a layer of superficial complexity to me. I get that this is monk's "quirk" and it's play-style revolves around it, but I wish we could focus more on building up chakras in a way that's meaningful, similar to how Samurai builds Kenki or Ninjas build Ninjutsu.

(yeah, yeah I know..I'm waiting for the "go play that job, then" comments) >_>

[Fendred]

I literally took one-ilm and Arm off my hotbar because I used them so seldom.

Monk was the second class I ever leveled in this game. It holds a special place in my heart, even if I switched to Samurai as main. I just got my monk to 70 recently in Stormblood and I wish that positionals weren't SUCH a focus. It's fine to have a few like Dragoon and Samurai do, but it just feels like a layer of superficial complexity to me. I get that this is monk's "quirk" and it's play-style revolves around it, but I wish we could focus more on building up chakras in a way that's meaningful, similar to how Samurai builds Kenki or Ninjas build Ninjutsu.

(yeah, yeah I know..I'm waiting for the "go play that job, then" comments) >_>

The uses for the abilities come with time. But you are right on the one-ilm punch. Very role-of-the-dice whether it is useful. Not really something that can be easily fit into a monk's rotation

[Exiled_Tonberry]

not to mention monk is currently the strongest melee rn lol

That's DRG by a huge margain.
Monk is now able to stand neck and neck with Ninja at least.

[Shiroe]

only if theres a brd or/and mch in the group, than Drg is probably by far better., on the other hand: comps with 3(-4) melee, mnk rocks hard

but some raids tend to force 2 melee / 2 ranged (or caster) for mechanics..., still rd/mch can be "melee"- like, if they can stay in melee range as much as possible, to profit from the mnks buff

imo with mnks buff, smn still got a slight too strong nerf (could have left painflare or wyvertrance unnerfed, smn got hit hard)

[Fendred]

They could give us an ability that you can spam to keep up greased lightning stacks during transitions. That would require way less predicting than tornado kick.

[SpeckledBurd]

They could give us an ability that you can spam to keep up greased lightning stacks during transitions. That would require way less predicting than tornado kick.

That would just be an "Enhanced Form Shift" trait, that allows GL to be Refreshed when formshifting from Coeurl Form to Opo-Opo form.

And at that point Riddle of Earth can be thrown into a dumpster where it belongs.

[Fendred]

Yeah, riddle of Earth does feel like another tornado kick mechanic. Honestly I can't understand why they do not just focus on keeping greased lightning up. All these other mechanics they keep throwing in are overcomplicating things when we already deal with having a fast attack speed and loads of positional attacks.

edit: Hold up, I was thinking I had misread Riddle of Earth when he said it was a damage buff. It's not a damage buff. It is purely a defense boost... It is a useful utility then. I'd be more concerned if we had to somehow incorporate getting punched into our DPS.

[Sarutobi_Daritobi]

I find Riddle of Earth rather useful in o5s and o7s to keep the GL stacks on the head on and when boss drops from lift of in 7...