Thread: mages in 4.0 why you even need them ?

so first of all its not a mage hate thread.

so all of the new dungeons/raids in 4.0 make you move lot more that before.
this bring a big problem to Black Mage and Summoner, Red Mage is ok, in the form of to much moving killing the dps they can do. lots of time they just get hit by aoe so they wont lose the dps and getting killed all the time. in EX primals and omega you can fell this when you get a Black Mage.
Black Mage and Summoner are the most non played jobs at the moment to the point i didn't see even 1 Summoner in dungeon/raid so far.
SE need to give all the mages a get in and get out skill like the Red Mage have.

what you think on this problem?

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Every dungeon (expert or lower) i have mostly blm, rdm and sometimes a bard.
i rarely see melees.

As a melee dps, moving around hurts me as well, my strongest attacks need to be from behind the bosses, if i'm not behind them, i lose out on a bunch of damage, for example, when there's AOEs behind them or i'm forced to move in some ways, or the tanks are iffy and can't tank the boss staying still.

Originally Posted by Zentsa

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Every dungeon (expert or lower) i have mostly blm, rdm and sometimes a bard.
i rarely see melees.

it is the exact opposite for me

Originally Posted by Moxas

As a melee dps, moving around hurts me as well, my strongest attacks need to be from behind the bosses, if i'm not behind them, i lose out on a bunch of damage, for example, when there's AOEs behind them or i'm forced to move in some ways, or the tanks are iffy and can't tank the boss staying still.

Have.... you ever played a caster class? The DPS loss is a bit more severe then positional penalties.

Originally Posted by Age_of_Oblivion

Have.... you ever played a caster class? The DPS loss is a bit more severe then positional penalties.

ye you dont just lose % of the dps but 100% of he dps

Well MAYBE because people play what job they wanna play, having the biggest d*** in the party isn't important as long as you're having fun.
I hate the mentality of "Everyone should have a big d*** whatever their role" that is getting stronger ever since StormBlood.

Originally Posted by Arutan

Well MAYBE because people play what job they wanna play, having the biggest d*** in the party isn't important as long as you're having fun.
I hate the mentality of "Everyone should have a big d*** whatever their role" that is getting stronger ever since StormBlood.

bwahahahahaha Thank you that made my day lol

Originally Posted by Kukajoo

Perhaps while casting, if the spell is say, (i'm just gunna throw a number out here) one second or so till the cast would be complete if they move it would not interrupt the cast and the spell would go off? This would allow an opportunity to get out of aoes and such.

EDIT;
As of the live letter
YoshiP Admits certain content is unkind to BLM
MP issues will be adjusted
Triple cast CD reduced to 60s from 90s
recommends to stack spell speed.
Fire IV Will be 2.8 secs base cast time

Is this true? So then perhaps all is not lost upon them BLM. Has there been word on B4 being a dps loss? Some of my mates are saying it is a dps loss but I cannot confirm anything (ps4).