Quote Originally Posted by Alisi View Post
I come to you all with a question: why do melee DPS refuse to do LB3 lately?

I've never had an issue with DPS and LB. You ask and they do it. Now it's like twisting an arm. I've had melee DPS out and out refuse to use LB3 in, say, Susa Ex. Literally saying no in the party chat when you ask them. You think I kid? I do not.

I'm trying to understand what the issue here is. It's multiple people, in multiple runs, and I don't have any melee DPS to 70. I've a SMN and the rest are healers. No one ever asks a SMN to LB3 and I can count on one hand the times I've used LB2 so I thought perhaps there is an issue with casting LB3 that I don't know of?

Does it hurt your DPS to cast LB3? Does it give you a debuff or something? Is it a huge burden to ask someone to use it? What's going on here? Why are people refusing to use it?
It really depends. If the party has had a lot of deaths before the LB3 even builds up, they may silently decide to hold the LB3 until a certain percentage in the event a healer LB is needed. This is also the case if a group wipes several times due to people using the LB3 too early, which, in Susano Ex's case at least, can happen if the party is not that great. Typically, I only mention saving the LB for healer LB if there have been 2-3 wipes prior where melee used the LB3 at, say, 30%, and then we wiped soon after each time. If the party is good to where there are no deaths and there's no need for a healer LB, then the melee should be using LB3, followed by casters, followed by ranged (BRD/MCH).

Some fights, people wait for a certain time to use the LB, since it does lock the caster in place. For Susano, I know that, as a healer, I wish the melee would wait and LB after the Rasen Kaikyo's appear, because a lot of the time, they LB right as the second set of rock gaols appear, and Rasen's appear shortly thereafter, and they die either mid-cast, or right as it finishes. There are also times where a melee decides to LB, and they get marked with one of the purple Levin markers. And since they're locked in place, they end up electrocuting the entire party, which requires unnecessary AOE healing. So it could be that melee are waiting until mechanic-heavy phases pass to use the LB3.

There is also the possibility some players are waiting for another melee to LB. Or that they simply are tunnel-visioning too hard to even realize there is an LB3.

And then, there's the melee that want to wait until that last 1%, because some people think that using the LB3 at 1% to kill off the boss is some sort of DPS gain when, usually, waiting that late is just a waste of LB damage.