SCH & AST MP management issue suggestions

[Rayna]

I love AST. It has been my main since it was released and up until 4.0 I NEVER had an issue with maintaining MP, but since 4.0 it has been a major adjustment period. I feel like I am unable to enjoy AST like I used to because I'm constantly staring at my mp bar and praying for a ewer (which btw I hate using on myself).

I feel like I can't DPS as much as I could before because the rate of MP refresh time seems to have been cut in half, and I really hate not being able to DPS as much. Also, using my cards now, I feel like every ewer I pull has to go toward helping me with MP rather than helping me set up other card combos for my parties.

I feel like an easy solution for not only AST's issue, but SCH as well would be to adjust Lucid Dreaming by either lowering the cool down time or raising the potency or duration time.

I miss not having to worry about my mp.

[Tashim]

I find with astro, when you know you're going to need more mp, is to save celestial opposition for use with lucid dreaming, so you get 10 mp ticks from it instead of 7. For optimal efficiency, try to use these right after you play a card, to squeeze 10s more out of it. (either ewer on yourself for alot of mp recovery, or balance/arrow on the group, to give everyone 40s of it)

Since I started doing that, I've found that my mp problems on astro are pretty rare.

[Rongway]

In light parties,

are you mainsecting Diurnal, extending Luminiferous Aether with Opposition, and converting your Spires to Minor Arcana for potential free heals?

Despite the huge buff to Nocturnal Sect, Diurnal is still mathematically superior. And even with the reduced duration on Dreaming (which is only one tick less than Luminiferous Aether had), there's still enough MP to spam Gravity two pulls in a row. And if you get low, don't balk at the idea of Ewering yourself when it arises; you shouldn't be burning cards for AoE in a light party anyway.



In full parties, I only have to keep a close eye on my MP when people aren't mechanicsing, and that's normal during the first few weeks in new content, as people are getting used to everything. It's maybe just a little bit worse than before because people are also getting used to major changes in their jobs, but any MP problems I've had have been side effects of problems party problems, and not properly AST problems.

[Lastelli]

Use lightspeed more often, try to use opposition when you have lucid dreaming on and you won't have any mp problem. Even now AST mana sustainability is extremely good and way better than SCH, so you can't just buff LD, it would just make AST into a mana battery while SCH issues would remain unsolved.

[AlphaSonic]

Your MP shortage probably comes from Aspected Benefic (Diurnal).

Spamming Benefic is less MP Consuming than using Aspected Benefic.

[Normalizer]

TBH i thought this was a troll thread when you complain about AST mp regen and put it together with SCH :P But if you are serious, the other already answered AST doesn't need buff in that department. SCH though...

[Roxas_Andrade]

If we're talking about healing only, never needed MP. Lightspeed to heal only is lame, but at least we have something that helps with MP.

When I try to dps, I need a lot of MP top spam Gravity... But that's when all the tips above come to play.

AST has pros that other healers don't have: We can extend
-Largesse, so our heals will be stronger and we save MP in the proccess...
-Lucid Dreaming, so we'll regen more MP... (If we get to extend LD+Ewer, we're golden, let the DPS die, 'cause you can Gravity every mob by yourself...)
-I didn't test yet, but we probably can extend Eye for an Eye, can't we? More mitigation also means less healing...
-And Synastry - even if it lost the boost to healing - is still a plus. If you put it on the tank and heal him, it will work like a 20% heal buff, I use it more often than Largesse (It's almost like we had a fairie...)

So focus on optimize your Celestial Oposition when you're dpsing, you sure will love it...

[Yuyuka3]

Funny how WHM was allowed to have shit MP management to the point it was dependendant on BRD some times and told to git gud and just live with it for four years, but Twelve beware if somebody else has even a tiny little bit of trouble managing theirs...

[Liquid_Amnesia]

I'm going to agree with those that said Lucid + Opposition is enough to get you by (bonus if you have an extended/enhanced Ewer on yourself). I'm curious as to what content you're healing as well. I'll admit that from 60-70, it was tough. I was consistently having mp problems until I broke from my HW mentality of tossing Essential Dignity on the tank every CD cycle and then dpsing for 90% of the fight. Once you're properly geared, most of your mp problems should subside considering how much Piety is loaded onto the 310/320 gear.

I've healed Delta 4.0 and the two Ex Primals without issue as long as the DPS isn't taking unnecessary dmg. Ask your ranged DPS to slot Refresh or Mana Shift if you need the help, though I usually prefer they save it if I get myself killed and need a post-rez boost. I always seem to die mere seconds after using Lucid. -_-

[Sodamachine]

Hmm, I have yet to have a single MP issue in SB?
Sure, Adlo is more expensive, and fairy heals a bit less, and mana managedment moved around, but I can heal all out and DPS, and I am not even close to mana problems as a SCH.
What do other people do that I dont?
If I spam Adlo and Succer as every other spell, I will probably have mana problem.