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    Quote Originally Posted by angienessyo View Post
    I don't think nerfing RDM is going to fix BLM having a difficult time doing anything when they have to jog across the map every 2 seconds.
    RDM will always remains viable, if not mandatory, due to how Embolden works, being a 6% rDPS increase. The massive dps they have currently guarantees them a raid slot. What BLM/SMN need to be is viable, necessitating nerfs to either Embolden or their personal deeps. Right now they offer utility that surpasses even BRD while doing several hundred more dps than them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    RDM will always remains viable, if not mandatory, due to how Embolden works, being a 6% rDPS increase. The massive dps they have currently guarantees them a raid slot. What BLM/SMN need to be is viable, necessitating nerfs to either Embolden or their personal deeps. Right now they offer utility that surpasses even BRD while doing several hundred more dps than them.
    I think you're confused. Embolden has 1/6 uptime, and gives 10% bonus to most of their damage, and 10% of only physical dps of those around them. And that's only for 4 seconds, it goes down to 8 then 6, 4, 2, 0. So the average is 6%, and even if that boosted everyone's dps (it doesn't), that'd be 6% x 16% uptime so .96% increase. It's less significant than trick attack. It's under 1% difference not counting that it doesn't boost healer dps or another caster's.

    If anything that's such a weird distinction for them to have that it should be made to affect all damage; being punished for having another caster is obtuse.
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    The rdm hate on these forums is way to strong. It has raise like summer and a damage buff so let's Nerf it makes zero sense
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    The rdm hate on these forums is way to strong. It has raise like summer and a damage buff so let's Nerf it makes zero sense
    There's a teeeeensy bit more to it than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greedalox View Post
    There's a teeeeensy bit more to it than that.
    not really it does good damage to and it can heal so what most of the time I use vercure on myself, it can do multiple raises at the expense of losing major damage, all they need to do is buff blm and call it a day stop nerfing stuff it ruins the game when they do all these changes to classes
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    not really it does good damage to and it can heal so what most of the time I use vercure on myself, it can do multiple raises at the expense of losing major damage, all they need to do is buff blm and call it a day stop nerfing stuff it ruins the game when they do all these changes to classes
    It does really good damage at no expense, mobility that's second only to BRD/MCH, can raise multiple team mates faster than the healers + it outpaces Summoners quickcast rez and has the incredibly powerful Embolden just to kick BLM/SMN in the teeth for good measure. Naturally I don't believe that listing off a classes strengths is a good way to make a point- but I take exception to this in that I can't think of a weakness.

    Plus you really need to rethink your stance on "never nerf" because that is terrrible design philosophy. Balance in dynamic- and when you only allow the use of buffing to attempt to achieve something as complicated and difficult as balance then you're going to have immensely under tuned content. Then they're have to individually buff each bit of content to compensate for this ever growing mass of buffage that is the collective of classes which ironically would probably be a lot more work in the short/mid and long term.

    RDM is powerful, content isn't hard enough to warrant how strong it is so why would you want to trivialize content by only buffing when you can pull back numbers too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greedalox View Post
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    Because you can't read I'll say it again, like other people have said, embolden is not that powerful, it is only at max .75% rDPS increase. If you want to give RDM a weakness just make its raise cost 50-100% more. There, now its utility actually costs something because you can't just spam raises. Or make it so DC doesn't work with it. Gain some perspective.
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