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  1. #1
    Player
    Nezia's Avatar
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    Fester Blight
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Rogue Lv 80
    If they nerfed RDM so your sentence would change from this

    Quote Originally Posted by Zetic View Post
    why bring a blm or smn when you can just take a rdm or two.
    to this

    Quote Originally Posted by Zetic View Post
    why bring a caster when you can just take 4 physical damage dealers.
    Nerfing RDM would not magically make BLM and SMN shine, it would just throw the only currently viable caster in the trash with the other 2.
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    Player
    Deedsie's Avatar
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    Garlemald
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    Character
    Deedlit Blanchimont
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 70
    When I first started ARR, I chose Dragoon as my main job because of all available jobs, it was because Red Mage and Dark Knight were not available and Dragoon was my favorite traditional FF job that was available at the time. When Heavensward came out, I changed my main to Dark Knight because it was second on my personal most wanted job list, and did not care that it had a primary tank role because it was still Dark Knight. Now we have Stormblood and Red Mage being my personal #1 most wanted job since the beginning, I change my main to it. Simplicity or complexity of it mattered not to me. The only thing that would possibly have me off the job is if they would have made it into a primary healer role.
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    Vexander's Avatar
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    Character
    Rin Black
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    Saying RDM needs a nerf because its supposed to be a Jack of All Trades, Master of None, doesn't take into account that FFXIV has a strict role system and RDM fell into the DPS slot. It needs to do competitive damage with other DPS. These threads keep making me think if it had been a Healer would healer's be demanding its healing be nerfed because it had DPS.
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    HoLoFoNo's Avatar
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    White Glint
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Vexander View Post
    Saying RDM needs a nerf because its supposed to be a Jack of All Trades, Master of None, doesn't take into account that FFXIV has a strict role system and RDM fell into the DPS slot. It needs to do competitive damage with other DPS. These threads keep making me think if it had been a Healer would healer's be demanding its healing be nerfed because it had DPS.
    DPS without heals don't do competitive damage..... DRG/SMN/MCH etc. Yes these classes do need a buff but you are glossing over the arguments people are presenting. RDM is 2nd strongest DPS which is more than competitive, and is probably the easiest to play next to BRD while also not being punished by mechanics much effectively living within their own bubble (similar to BRD). The cure and raise are just the icing on the cake, and part of it's identity so it should remain. Embolden should effect everyone, not just physical but its personal damage IS too high.
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    KuroTenshi's Avatar
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    Lael Night
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    RDM is too strong at the moment, but it's not that it needs to be nerfed much. (A little) But smn/blm need to actually legitimately take it's place. You can't do one without the other. SMN should come in a little below BLM, and BLM should come in a little below SAM. RDM should come after those two. (Yes RDM needs to be the weakest caster as it has the strongest utility, that doesn't mean it needs to be bard/mch/drg tier, though.)
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    Last edited by KuroTenshi; 07-16-2017 at 10:05 PM.

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    Shiroe's Avatar
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    Character
    Ohlala Chica
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 100
    Both rdm and Sam are OP. Nerfing them might not be needed (though, Sam could use a tick more punishment during mechanics). Rdm is ment to be easy, .. but Smn should be on paar dps wise, if not even more at least in aoes. Blm should clearly be above rdm and on par with Sam it's "twin - no utilty" dps, if not even more than Sam (Sam still has the slashing debuff).

    Tldr, buff the other classes more, .. and make Sam (and Rdm) just a tick more punished not "nerf their damage". Rdm would still remain "easy", but not to the point, it's not fair for other classes.
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    KuroTenshi's Avatar
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    Lael Night
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    Cactuar
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Shiroe View Post
    Both rdm and Sam are OP. Nerfing them might not be needed (though, Sam could use a tick more punishment during mechanics). Rdm is ment to be easy, .. but Smn should be on paar dps wise, if not even more at least in aoes. Blm should clearly be above rdm and on par with Sam it's "twin - no utilty" dps, if not even more than Sam (Sam still has the slashing debuff).

    Tldr, buff the other classes more, .. and make Sam (and Rdm) just a tick more punished not "nerf their damage". Rdm would still remain "easy", but not to the point, it's not fair for other classes.
    Oh god, this is the worst balancing idea I've ever seen. If you're going to do this just nerf the damage instead. That's like saying "Oh you were having fun, well, not anymore!" You should never take quality of life from a class, that's insane.
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    Ronzeru's Avatar
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    Character
    Dorian Makai
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Yeah, nerf the job that's useful until no one wants to play it anymore! Lower its damage! Take away it's brez and it's heal! It dun need any of it!
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    Player Wavaryen's Avatar
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    Teladi Bishop
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 90
    Class envy is a fugly thing to watch.
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    Oscura's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Shion Sumeragi
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Wavaryen View Post
    Class envy is a fugly thing to watch.
    My main class is a Red Mage and I do not see that changing in the foreseeable future.

    Sure though, class envy.
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