If they nerfed RDM so your sentence would change from this
to this
Nerfing RDM would not magically make BLM and SMN shine, it would just throw the only currently viable caster in the trash with the other 2.

When I first started ARR, I chose Dragoon as my main job because of all available jobs, it was because Red Mage and Dark Knight were not available and Dragoon was my favorite traditional FF job that was available at the time. When Heavensward came out, I changed my main to Dark Knight because it was second on my personal most wanted job list, and did not care that it had a primary tank role because it was still Dark Knight. Now we have Stormblood and Red Mage being my personal #1 most wanted job since the beginning, I change my main to it. Simplicity or complexity of it mattered not to me. The only thing that would possibly have me off the job is if they would have made it into a primary healer role.


Saying RDM needs a nerf because its supposed to be a Jack of All Trades, Master of None, doesn't take into account that FFXIV has a strict role system and RDM fell into the DPS slot. It needs to do competitive damage with other DPS. These threads keep making me think if it had been a Healer would healer's be demanding its healing be nerfed because it had DPS.
DPS without heals don't do competitive damage..... DRG/SMN/MCH etc. Yes these classes do need a buff but you are glossing over the arguments people are presenting. RDM is 2nd strongest DPS which is more than competitive, and is probably the easiest to play next to BRD while also not being punished by mechanics much effectively living within their own bubble (similar to BRD). The cure and raise are just the icing on the cake, and part of it's identity so it should remain. Embolden should effect everyone, not just physical but its personal damage IS too high.Saying RDM needs a nerf because its supposed to be a Jack of All Trades, Master of None, doesn't take into account that FFXIV has a strict role system and RDM fell into the DPS slot. It needs to do competitive damage with other DPS. These threads keep making me think if it had been a Healer would healer's be demanding its healing be nerfed because it had DPS.
RDM is too strong at the moment, but it's not that it needs to be nerfed much. (A little) But smn/blm need to actually legitimately take it's place. You can't do one without the other. SMN should come in a little below BLM, and BLM should come in a little below SAM. RDM should come after those two. (Yes RDM needs to be the weakest caster as it has the strongest utility, that doesn't mean it needs to be bard/mch/drg tier, though.)
Last edited by KuroTenshi; 07-16-2017 at 10:05 PM.
Both rdm and Sam are OP. Nerfing them might not be needed (though, Sam could use a tick more punishment during mechanics). Rdm is ment to be easy, .. but Smn should be on paar dps wise, if not even more at least in aoes. Blm should clearly be above rdm and on par with Sam it's "twin - no utilty" dps, if not even more than Sam (Sam still has the slashing debuff).
Tldr, buff the other classes more, .. and make Sam (and Rdm) just a tick more punished not "nerf their damage". Rdm would still remain "easy", but not to the point, it's not fair for other classes.
Oh god, this is the worst balancing idea I've ever seen. If you're going to do this just nerf the damage instead. That's like saying "Oh you were having fun, well, not anymore!" You should never take quality of life from a class, that's insane.Both rdm and Sam are OP. Nerfing them might not be needed (though, Sam could use a tick more punishment during mechanics). Rdm is ment to be easy, .. but Smn should be on paar dps wise, if not even more at least in aoes. Blm should clearly be above rdm and on par with Sam it's "twin - no utilty" dps, if not even more than Sam (Sam still has the slashing debuff).
Tldr, buff the other classes more, .. and make Sam (and Rdm) just a tick more punished not "nerf their damage". Rdm would still remain "easy", but not to the point, it's not fair for other classes.

Yeah, nerf the job that's useful until no one wants to play it anymore! Lower its damage! Take away it's brez and it's heal! It dun need any of it!
Class envy is a fugly thing to watch.
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