Quote Originally Posted by Sstromquist View Post
I stated 80th percentile and above, meaning people that actually can play their jobs well. Rdm falls behind monk. If you argue lower percentiles, what's the point? People that don't understand the job won't play as well and it all comes down to skill cap and how they benefit from party buffs.

That's the only question I have. Everything else you mentioned, party synergy with melees. Rez and what not, it doesn't matter.

Monk played by good players beats Rdm.
Well first of all, If you wanna play it like that then at the 100th percentile (top dps for the class) RDM beats MNK by about 200 dps.

Second, the whole point is that the class has such a low ceiling and floor, which is why it is an issue RDM being high. This accounts for the majority of percentiles as it shows that on average, RDM does better than MNK. It's not only about knowing how to play your class because fights aren't that nice; Take susano for example. If he decides to rock you you're fucked. MNK loses greased lightning and is SOL without PB. From what I know RDM would likely lose the dualcast proc and that's it, they retain their mana distribution. Being rocked can change you from 95th percentile to 75th, coupled with stuns and pushback rng.

Missing positionals also hampers MNKs dps and with the ridiculous timer of true north coupled with the SB bosses liking to turn, you lose DPS much easier on MNK for example, and it isn't even a hard class. This issue gets compounded with more punishing classes like DRG and SMN and they aren't even close to RDM dps. That is the issue.