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    Ketsufuma's Avatar
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    Ca'ex Ketsu
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    Adamantoise
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    Reaper Lv 90
    how about we keep rdm where it is and buff other classes so we are all happy? O.o
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    Fortune_Cookie's Avatar
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    Eden Dawn
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    Louisoix
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ketsufuma View Post
    how about we keep rdm where it is and buff other classes so we are all happy? O.o
    Power creep. If SE only balance by buffing, the content ends up undertuned. And that's the worst possible outcome because undertuned content sucks for everybody.
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    Draco'li Tayuun
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Love these arguments (sarcasm) because both sides have such strong emotions about their point of views to the point they will not listen to the other side because they will consider them "whinners" or "white-knights" or something similar. In the end it goes no where and everyone thinks their view on the matter is right and everyone else who doesn't believe as they do is wrong. Threads like these quickly devolve into slugfests of emotions that trolls enjoy and giggle about as each side tries to argue their points, but will not consider any counter points the other side offers. Both arguments will also lose all factual information and turn quickly to oppinions at best because in the end that is all anyone has.
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    HoLoFoNo's Avatar
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    White Glint
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    Omega
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    Monk Lv 70
    Nerf, Buff its all the same. RDM should not remain where it is.
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    Kalin Orthos
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    Mateus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    not really it does good damage to and it can heal so what most of the time I use vercure on myself, it can do multiple raises at the expense of losing major damage, all they need to do is buff blm and call it a day stop nerfing stuff it ruins the game when they do all these changes to classes
    I feel like I'm talking to a child on this, but that's really not how game design works. In a situation where you buff everyone and everyone wins, the content itself becomes trivial and retention rate drops. This has happened before, with countless other games. Power creep is inevitable, but by limiting its encroachment, you can delay its effects. Your mentality of "NOOOOO DONT NERF MY CLASS" strikes me as rather selfish and unacquainted with the design of game balance.
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    Nic Pay
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    Exodus
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by KalinOrthos View Post
    I feel like I'm talking to a child on this, but that's really not how game design works. In a situation where you buff everyone and everyone wins, the content itself becomes trivial and retention rate drops. This has happened before, with countless other games. Power creep is inevitable, but by limiting its encroachment, you can delay its effects. Your mentality of "NOOOOO DONT NERF MY CLASS" strikes me as rather selfish and unacquainted with the design of game balance.
    The fact is its eight slots if we talkin about raids we have 15 jobs , if you want to follow some midmax group for raids then thats on you. But if you just want to raid and have fun with your jobs what does it matter, numbers only matter if you can see them if your parsing.

    Otherwise you dont know whos doing what damage, its no need to mess up a new job for five percent of the player base anyway. SE from the year I have been playin this game doesnt know how to balance and it will never be a situation where every comp will work so again why nerf them. The only time it matters is if you are mid maxing or something, Im not about that life but if you are thats cool , but if you not worried about a meta or something of the sorts I really dont see why it matters if a job is a bit better than the other.


    @Yorumi

    How are you gona be put out of a job, there is no spot for any job its those whom follow a meta set up by top tier raiders and 8 slots that must be filled by 15 different jobs. You either play what you want and worry about yourself and your friends are you seek balance thats impossible to have how can every job have a spot in a meta where only 8 players can participate? IF blms in then rdm out, if smn in then blm out , like thats how it works just like whm was out, palidan was out in hw so I dont get what you guys mean by balance and losing a job. Play what you want and stop worring about all the small stuff. Its impossible to have balance in this game , to where everyjob would fit in a meta its not gona happen so why do people think taking a nerf gun to everything is the solution.
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    Last edited by bswpayton; 07-15-2017 at 05:41 AM.

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    MPNZ's Avatar
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    Nephie Elz
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    Lamia
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    Archer Lv 90
    Honestly, I just don't think it would be a good idea to repeat the series of nerfs they implemented to BRD that continued into Heavensward with RDM...
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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Adore Mi
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    Jenova
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Greedalox View Post
    Look at you go. All that sass to prove a point? Good for you, Buddy.
    This same person called someone else out just earlier today for being condescending. LOL, funny how that works, isn't it?
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    White Glint
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    Omega
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    Monk Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    This same person called someone else out just earlier today for being condescending. LOL, funny how that works, isn't it?
    Psst it was me, but I don't disagree I was intentionally condescending as I'm tired of people being zealots for their class. Honestly calm down, the class isn't getting removed from the game and it will never be nerfed to the point that it is literally unplayable. Losing 7% of your damage (this is a bit much imo) wont make the class any harder to play or any less well designed. Nor will making every other class 7% stronger than it.
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    Lala Yuki
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 70
    Ya tbh I'd rather they buff other classes than nerf.....except Ninja, seriously nerf TA pls.
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