Inferno Totem drop rate

[Rukkirii]

We checked in with the dev. team about the drop rates of Inferno Totems and Kupo Nut Charms.

They let us know that they are looking into the following options for the drop rate adjustments:

• Increase the drop rate for both items
• Make them have 100% drop rate, but reduce the number that can be obtained at one time

We would love to hear your feedback on the above two options. ^_^

[Hachi-Roku]

We checked in with the dev. team about the drop rates of Inferno Totems and Kupo Nut Charms.

They let us know that they are looking into the following options for the drop rate adjustments:

• Increase the drop rate for both items
• Make them have 100% drop rate, but reduce the number that can be obtained at one time

We would love to hear your feedback on the above two options. ^_^

If option #2 keeps it so that you can trade the totems/charms that are still in the loot pool, that one sounds great.

EDIT: and to be doubly clear, if option #2 means that it's one 100% drop of a totem/nut for the party, one totem/nut per run, that would not be good. Someone pointed it out that SE would be that crazy, and I agree.

The more I think about it the more wary I get. Some clarification if this is per-person or per-party would be appreciated. Thank you in advance!

[TheFatHousecat]

We checked in with the dev. team about the drop rates of Inferno Totems and Kupo Nut Charms.

They let us know that they are looking into the following options for the drop rate adjustments:

• Increase the drop rate for both items
• Make them have 100% drop rate, but reduce the number that can be obtained at one time

We would love to hear your feedback on the above two options. ^_^

Remove totems/charms, keep weapon drop the same, have weapons drop to loot.

[Brannigan]

# Make them have 100% drop rate, but reduce the number that can be obtained at one time

What does this even mean? 1 drop per group? Cause that would be super dumb. Nuts/Totems should be the consolation prize for when you don't get a weapon instead of Dark Matter Grade 5

[totallynotme]

Hey Rukkirii!

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[*]Make them have 100% drop rate, but reduce the number that can be obtained at one time

Just for clarification does this mean a 100% drop rate per individual or "per win" as a group? Like for example would this mean 1 guaranteed totem drop per person or per party?

I've got about 90 wins now I think, maybe 350+ fights in total. 5/7 on weapons and currently have 6 totems so I'll be done soon but for future reference I really do think 10 wins per weapon is a fair time investment, hardcore or not.

Well after reading the whole thread, the most sensible solution appears to be:

- Remove weapon drops completely
- Make totems/nuts a 100% drop (per individual) and
- Make totems/nuts untradeable

[Skies]

*deep breath*
Okay, my answer is dependant on one thing. My final intent is: If the party can't pile all of their charms/totems in a single person, a guaranteed drop for each party member is better.
So, thing is, at 100% drop rate but reduced number, is it a small number per party, or per character? If it is one per character, at 100% rate, I prefer that.
Otherwise, simply increase the drop rate

[Nikita]

We checked in with the dev. team about the drop rates of Inferno Totems and Kupo Nut Charms.

They let us know that they are looking into the following options for the drop rate adjustments:

• Increase the drop rate for both items
• Make them have 100% drop rate, but reduce the number that can be obtained at one time

We would love to hear your feedback on the above two options. ^_^

Does "reduce the number that can be obtained at one time" seem a bit vague or is it just me? I am not sure I understand. Does that mean it is guaranteed to drop for like... 1-2 random party members, instead of a 1% (rough estimate) chance for every individual in the party to receive something other than dark matter?

[Teakwood]

Seconding the "what does this mean exactly" before I actually give feedback. 100% drop rate per person, or per group? And if it's per-person, does the remainder mean "with a very low chance of getting two", or something? Would this cause the totems to bypass the loot pool as per Ifrit weapons to prevent one person getting a weapon in two or three runs if everyone cooperated? Or would that be allowed?

[Estellios]

If you could please clarify what you mean with the 2nd option, that would be great. It sounds like one person each run will always get a totem, multiple people MAY get it but not as many people as was possible before. That sounds more beneficial in the long run because I've never had totems drop for more than 3 people.

I think Will Brannigan's suggestion is also fair, to make the Totems and charms the consolation prize if you don't get a weapon. I'd be ok with the required totems/charms being increased to a reasonable amount. The only issue if that's the case is that it's somewhat unfriendly to random players in pickup groups (my LS usually needs to pick up 1-2 randoms when we run).

However, new players that haven't done the fights yet at all will benefit because they will have less of a rough time with drop rates and those of us that have done the fight dozens, maybe hundreds of times can finally finish off whatever we need from Ifrit. With new content coming in a month I think it's fine to help players get these items more quickly.

I don't think at the end of the day the pickup group issue is that big a deal. Most groups run quite a few times and everyone feeling like they are getting somewhere helps keep people motivated to stick together even if a run or two goes bad. This stuff is supposed to be dealt with a committed group, and is already casual-accessible by the fact that you can reenter quickly and now the fights are much easier to attempt multiple times, so I don't think the more dedicated players need to suffer for it further.

Also, getting rid of the Dark Matter consolation prize would help return its value to something reasonable.

[GemGenie]

Increase the drop rate for both items
Make them have 100% drop rate, but reduce the number that can be obtained at one time

The above 2 options seems disappointing. I guess it's talking about the drop rate as a pool for 8 ppl party.

The current drop rate is about 35% with 1-3 shared with 8 ppl?
So either increase to 60% drop rate for 1-3 totem shared with 8 ppl or 100% drop 1 totem shared with 8 ppl won't fix much.

Honestly, what is the dev expectation of how many wins we need for ifrit or moogle? Why not just make it simple? If they want us fight 100 times win to get 1 weapon, just make totem 100% drop to each person loot list and make it 100 totem per weapon. Even it's insane, extreme unlucky ppl still can get some progress. How many stories we have heard about unlucky and lucky ppl? One of the ls guy just got 3 ifrit weapons out of 4 wins and 1 moogle weapon by 1 win where some others at 0/40 on ifrit and ya my fd just got a ifrit bow after 20 wins but archer is the only class he is not 50