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    Hitsuzen's Avatar
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    Aoshi Firedancer
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    Faerie
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    Paladin Lv 80

    How to tune underpowered classes

    Lock 8 ff14 developers in a room with 8 PCs with the game loaded with 2 WAR, 2 SCH, and 2 SMN, 1 MCH, and 1 MNK. Now, they have either have to beat extreme pools with minimum ilvl or start development on a hotfix in order to win freedom lol.

    If they can beat ex susano game is working as intended.
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    Blufnix Greedalox
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    Machinist Lv 90
    (Might want a harder challenge than Susano for this lol)
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    Tani Shirai
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Greedalox View Post
    (Might want a harder challenge than Susano for this lol)
    And more than one sample encounter.

    EDIT: It may be better to see how far under minimum item level an "optimal" composition can sink before becoming unable to clear it, and then to try to clear at the same item level with "undertuned" compositions. Either way, if serious, this kind of hotfixing would likely cause more homogeneity than it would improve balance.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 07-14-2017 at 02:27 PM.

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    Char Mae
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Hitsuzen View Post
    Lock 8 ff14 developers in a room with 8 PCs with the game loaded with 2 WAR, 2 SCH, and 2 SMN, 1 MCH, and 1 MNK. Now, they have either have to beat extreme pools with minimum ilvl or start development on a hotfix in order to win freedom lol.

    If they can beat ex susano game is working as intended.
    they'll still be able to clear it, all those classes are viable, they just suck ass compared to their counterparts.
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    Vorx Dargo
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    Lamia
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Venoshock View Post
    they'll still be able to clear it, all those classes are viable, they just suck ass compared to their counterparts.
    Monk has some good points, but more or less i agree.
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    Sylvina Eon
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    Warrior Lv 90
    OK Warriors are not underpowered and neither are summoners, although summoners still need sustain back so they can solo well again with titan san.
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    Have a closed beta for the new expansions so people who actually know how the game works (unlike the developers) can provide feedback before the game goes live.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    Have a closed beta for the new expansions so people who actually know how the game works (unlike the developers) can provide feedback before the game goes live.
    They didn't listen to everyone when they tried this before it was released on PS3 why would they listen now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vorx View Post
    They didn't listen to everyone when they tried this before it was released on PS3 why would they listen now?
    Jobs went through a lot of changes throughout the beta.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    Jobs went through a lot of changes throughout the beta.
    yes, but we also told them many, many, other things that they never even considered. For example: dual weapon types. (at the time) Gld: sword and shirl/ one handed axe and shield, Lancers: dual sided spears/spears, Conjurer book/crystal (like the RDM one), Pugilist fists/combat boots.
    Never even considered it despite being wildly popular idea at the time.
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