Please, NEVER nerf RDM!

[Vorx]

As for the other question, as of late i've had to step into a melee role as there aren't many reading up anymore and i do this to support the tank. it also places me near him in case i need to throw a support heal. as it stands without enhancements to my melee i can do around 1500-2300 compared to just around 2000-3000 (without critical) so it doesn't really make to much difference and i can do two things at once rather then just casting. Also if i relly more on Jolt, Scatter, and Impulse from that range my bar still goes up and i get an AOE around 1300-1500 (without critical) that makes the runs go much faster. On bosses i'll hang back and bombard them with my spells sure but leading up the melee is on par with most Monks and adds a second sword to the mix, then add in the AOE stuff and a lot of tanks have been very very thankful.

[magnanimousCynic]

its not much i agree but even the smallest extra damage can sometimes make all the difference.

You'd get a much larger damage boost by melding literally any non-capped secondary stat instead of STR. Melding Crit/DH/SpS/Det would make ALL of your damaging abilities better, unlike STR which only buffs your <100 auto attacks.

[Averax]

As for the other question, as of late i've had to step into a melee role as there aren't many reading up anymore and i do this to support the tank. it also places me near him in case i need to throw a support heal. as it stands without enhancements to my melee i can do around 1500-2300 compared to just around 2000-3000 (without critical) so it doesn't really make to much difference and i can do two things at once rather then just casting. Also if i relly more on Jolt, Scatter, and Impulse from that range my bar still goes up and i get an AOE around 1300-1500 (without critical) that makes the runs go much faster. On bosses i'll hang back and bombard them with my spells sure but leading up the melee is on par with most Monks and adds a second sword to the mix, then add in the AOE stuff and a lot of tanks have been very very thankful.

Pffffffft!

[Kling-Klang]

As for the other question, as of late i've had to step into a melee role as there aren't many reading up anymore and i do this to support the tank. it also places me near him in case i need to throw a support heal. as it stands without enhancements to my melee i can do around 1500-2300 compared to just around 2000-3000 (without critical) so it doesn't really make to much difference and i can do two things at once rather then just casting. Also if i relly more on Jolt, Scatter, and Impulse from that range my bar still goes up and i get an AOE around 1300-1500 (without critical) that makes the runs go much faster. On bosses i'll hang back and bombard them with my spells sure but leading up the melee is on par with most Monks and adds a second sword to the mix, then add in the AOE stuff and a lot of tanks have been very very thankful.

You need to learn how to play RDM.

[Fredco191]

As for the other question, as of late i've had to step into a melee role as there aren't many reading up anymore and i do this to support the tank. it also places me near him in case i need to throw a support heal. as it stands without enhancements to my melee i can do around 1500-2300 compared to just around 2000-3000 (without critical) so it doesn't really make to much difference and i can do two things at once rather then just casting. Also if i relly more on Jolt, Scatter, and Impulse from that range my bar still goes up and i get an AOE around 1300-1500 (without critical) that makes the runs go much faster. On bosses i'll hang back and bombard them with my spells sure but leading up the melee is on par with most Monks and adds a second sword to the mix, then add in the AOE stuff and a lot of tanks have been very very thankful.

Okay. I'm sure you're joking now.

[Jybril]

As for the other question, as of late i've had to step into a melee role as there aren't many reading up anymore and i do this to support the tank. it also places me near him in case i need to throw a support heal. as it stands without enhancements to my melee i can do around 1500-2300 compared to just around 2000-3000 (without critical) so it doesn't really make to much difference and i can do two things at once rather then just casting. Also if i relly more on Jolt, Scatter, and Impulse from that range my bar still goes up and i get an AOE around 1300-1500 (without critical) that makes the runs go much faster. On bosses i'll hang back and bombard them with my spells sure but leading up the melee is on par with most Monks and adds a second sword to the mix, then add in the AOE stuff and a lot of tanks have been very very thankful.

I had to go to the wiki and double check to see if RDM was a Magical RANGE DPS...
And also check the calendar of April 1st.
Edit - I see that you put STR melds for AA... O_o
Okay, lol, now this has to be a joke. Good one.

[Reilyn]

As for the other question, as of late i've had to step into a melee role as there aren't many reading up anymore and i do this to support the tank. it also places me near him in case i need to throw a support heal. as it stands without enhancements to my melee i can do around 1500-2300 compared to just around 2000-3000 (without critical) so it doesn't really make to much difference and i can do two things at once rather then just casting. Also if i relly more on Jolt, Scatter, and Impulse from that range my bar still goes up and i get an AOE around 1300-1500 (without critical) that makes the runs go much faster. On bosses i'll hang back and bombard them with my spells sure but leading up the melee is on par with most Monks and adds a second sword to the mix, then add in the AOE stuff and a lot of tanks have been very very thankful.

I almost regret not reading this sooner. I needed a good laugh.

All I see in these threads are two groups of people. One group that mains RDM and is begging to remain OP and one group of everyone else that see's the reality of the situation.

By 'OP' you mean 'not quite the highest dps, but mobile'... ?

[NorthernLadMSP]

I almost regret not reading this sooner. I needed a good laugh.



By 'OP' you mean 'not quite the highest dps, but mobile'... ?

I mean great utility, highly mobile, insta casts, very big DPS, basically no mana issues, super simple, easy playstyle - basically a job with 0 drawbacks and DPS that is outshining the two other casters when it should be the lowest of the three. RDM is basically the AST of the casters IMO. AST also needs to be brought back down to Earth. Oh, not to mention that there is 0 reason to bring a SMN or a BLM when you can just have a RDM. This situation screams AST 3.4 all over again.

[Reilyn]

I mean great utility, highly mobile, insta casts, very big DPS, basically no mana issues, super simple, easy playstyle - basically a job with 0 drawbacks and DPS that is outshining the two other casters when it should be the lowest of the three. RDM is basically the AST of the casters IMO. AST also needs to be brought back down to Earth. Oh, not to mention that there is 0 reason to bring a SMN or a BLM when you can just have a RDM. This situation screams AST 3.4 all over again.

When you phrase it that way, it almost sounds like you believe it's entirely RDM's fault, when the truth is, SMN is a convoluted mess to play that needs its mechanics reworked, and BLM was apparently doing more dps with its HW rotations than its 4.0 rotation (ask an actual BLM about that) as well as unforgiving timers that punish a loss of a GCD heavily.

Nerfing RDM, and doing nothing else will not make SMN, and BLM's problems go away, just like how nerfing AST's healing potencies alone will not make WHM's problems go away.

In this case of casters, I'd argue that more DPS jobs should have more phase-change/boss mechanic screwage-friendly traits/changes. Again, actual BLMs could talk of the specifics about what needs a few seconds more on its duration, but the CD reduction of triplecast was a good start. SMN... again, is just a mess.

Even if RDM were nerfed, the discussion we should be having, and likely will be seeing alot more of, will be the difficulty of the other casters to hit their performance ceiling when it's the problem that should be addressed now before heavy-handed nerfs go out.

Oh, just saying it now, no dps should be balanced around how easy it is to play, and SE agrees if the live letter was anything to go by. Just feels like someone is bound to argue that every 5 min when it comes to RDM discussion.

[Blackheart]

As for the other question, as of late i've had to step into a melee role as there aren't many reading up anymore and i do this to support the tank. it also places me near him in case i need to throw a support heal. as it stands without enhancements to my melee i can do around 1500-2300 compared to just around 2000-3000 (without critical) so it doesn't really make to much difference and i can do two things at once rather then just casting. Also if i relly more on Jolt, Scatter, and Impulse from that range my bar still goes up and i get an AOE around 1300-1500 (without critical) that makes the runs go much faster. On bosses i'll hang back and bombard them with my spells sure but leading up the melee is on par with most Monks and adds a second sword to the mix, then add in the AOE stuff and a lot of tanks have been very very thankful.