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  1. #151
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    FallenArisen0990's Avatar
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    Anarista Tarnyang
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
    I'm glad BLM is getting buffed in 4.05

    The order of casters dps will now be: BLM > RDM > SMN.

    RDM does not need a nerf, it is in a very good spot now.
    Couldn't agree more. Happy that BLMs are getting that buff.
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  2. #152
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
    I'm glad BLM is getting buffed in 4.05

    The order of casters dps will now be: BLM > RDM > SMN.

    RDM does not need a nerf, it is in a very good spot now.
    Why should RDM be > SMN? RDM has more utility than them. I think it should be BLM > SMN > RDM
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    somehow i am soooo confused the last days... i should stop posting xD

  4. #153
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    Ootarion Astrofengia
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    Having already played RDM myself, if they nerf its damage to a degree that puts it under BLM, Im not gonna play the class anymore. It is fine where it is, if BLM is suffering, then perhaps it is time to improve BLM itself, and not take a dump on another class.
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  5. #154
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ootarion View Post
    Having already played RDM myself, if they nerf its damage to a degree that puts it under BLM, Im not gonna play the class anymore. It is fine where it is, if BLM is suffering, then perhaps it is time to improve BLM itself, and not take a dump on another class.
    BLM will get buffs with 4.05. Actually BLM and RDM are really close in terms of DPS (Susano and Lakshmi FFLogs) so i assume that BLM will deal more damage than RDM after buffs.
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  6. #155
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    Never play a class with the expectation it will never be nerfed, no matter if you feel it's in a good spot. Devs are always adjusting classes, so as a player, you just gotta roll with it. Especially if you're like me and are drawn to classes that get nerfed all the time. :V
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  7. #156
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talianore View Post
    Never play a class with the expectation it will never be nerfed, no matter if you feel it's in a good spot. Devs are always adjusting classes, so as a player, you just gotta roll with it. Especially if you're like me and are drawn to classes that get nerfed all the time. :V
    Sadly this seems true. At first no one thought Nin needed nerfed but it was. After the nerf i heard people saying it was destroyed so they started trying to "fix it" lowering TP cost, upping damage for the one AoE move, etc. As always the most fun seem to be the first ones..

    As for all you other "people" its funny you all seem to come in groups to insult people and it always seems to be the same people, can you really not find anyone to side with you other then your "buddies"?
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  8. #157
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    Wynne Yilmaz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vorx View Post
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    Do you mind explaining why you use STR melds on your RDM even though it does nothing but increase your auto-attack damage?

    Also why do you think RDM's melee combo should get a TP cost reduction, even though you should only use it at 80/80+ mana for the much better damage?

    Legitimate questions.
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    Last edited by magnanimousCynic; 07-17-2017 at 01:30 PM.
    I was the Almighty Enkidu for April Fools 2017.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beckett View Post
    To be fair, it's not so much a flame war as it's 12 pages of people agreeing the OP is an idiot.

  9. #158
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    Quote Originally Posted by magnanimousCynic View Post
    Do you mind explaining why you use STR melds on your RDM even though it does nothing but increase your auto-attack damage?

    Also why do you think RDM's melee combo should get a TP cost reduction, even though you should only use it at 80/80+ mana for the much better damage?

    Legitimate questions.
    STR does increase the damage of your combo if it isn't enchanted. You aren't meant to use it when it isn't enchanted though. He must really like it.
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  10. #159
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    You aren't meant to use it when it isn't enchanted though. He must really like it.
    Which just begs the question of why play RDM if you would rather do melee than spells.
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    I was the Almighty Enkidu for April Fools 2017.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beckett View Post
    To be fair, it's not so much a flame war as it's 12 pages of people agreeing the OP is an idiot.

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    Emstidor Diabolos
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    STR does increase the damage of your combo if it isn't enchanted. You aren't meant to use it when it isn't enchanted though. He must really like it.
    I think Magna has the right of it actually, RDM's melee skills are indeed physical damage but their potency is based on INT rather than STR, not unlike how NIN's melee skills scale of DEX instead of STR.

    Which just makes this even more perplexing.
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