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  1. #51
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    Maero's Avatar
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Leviathan
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    Dancer Lv 90
    There is no real slow cast times on Red Mage if one knows what they are doing. You know dual casting, your next spell after Jolt is quick and even Jolt is not considered slow... If you want to know what slow cast times are try blm.
    As for nerfing i agree 100% that Red Mage should not be nerfed just because it is more powerful then other jobs, instead they should buff the other casters being smn and blm and they do need it
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  2. #52
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    Lelane Lavellan
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kling-Klang View Post
    All rdm needs to have done is get the mana glitch fixed. Then its a fine job.


    Higher than BLM happens because of the mana glitch, which will probably get fixed in 4.05.
    What mana glitch is that? I haven't noticed anything.
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  3. #53
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    Kling Klang
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    Odin
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SpiritMuse View Post
    What mana glitch is that? I haven't noticed anything.
    This is how you get top fflogs and out dps blm:

    You can get into your melee combo much faster like this. You shit out dps.
    Imbalance numbers with which you can do this are
    52, 53, 54
    if you cant do it this early you do it with
    65, 66, 67, 68, 69

    Japanese dps forum knows about it already, so I assume it will get fixed before omega savage. Most here dont seem to know about it so they assume rdm is OP when the logs and parsers of top rdm are due to this.
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    Last edited by Kling-Klang; 07-14-2017 at 09:59 PM.

  4. #54
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    Rin Black
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 90
    RDM is fine. It suits the class Fantasy of a Red Mage, it suits the Lore, and its damage is in a good spot. Objectively, RDM is fine. Its not like SAM where it's leaps and bounds ahead of all other DPS by a massive margin.

    The issue is that BLM and SMN are NOT fine. Those classes need fixes, and I'm not sure its the kind of fixes that can be done outside of a major patch.
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    Noah Dotharl
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    I'm thinking of switching to RDM, so hopefully they don't nerf it.
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  6. #56
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    Xoria Tepes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kling-Klang View Post
    ~snip~
    It supposedly doesn't work on black mana and only on white mana? Definitely looks like an unintended glitch.
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    9.23.2019 [11:15 p.m.]Total Play Time: 1552 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes - You'll be hard-pressed to find a more cynical person than me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Odstarva View Post
    You people are never happy.
    [...] You complain and complain and complain.

  7. #57
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by JunseiKei View Post
    It supposedly doesn't work on black mana and only on white mana? Definitely looks like an unintended glitch.
    Works on both, at least I remember it did for me (I might be wrong, gave this a try a time ago but decided to not bother with it too much).
    It is not intended yeah.
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  8. #58
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    Lexia Lightress
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    You shouldn't bring attention to it if you don't want it nerfed, cause then it just brings it into the light of being examined more on whether it should be nerfed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vorx View Post
    Wow.. now i remember why i took a few months off from this forum..
    Because you don't like when people post thoughtful responses to your very silly OP?

    What you have posted amounts to..."I want it to stay OP because the class is something I like" to which the response has basically been "But the effort/reward structure of the class is far to skewed to reward and is not in line with other classes"

    I fail to see what is wrong with that response from the forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    Advantage is fair if you're willing to do something that most others aren't.

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    Oxix Lahun
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Even though this is just an opinion, I like to believe that the RDM class got looked into more thoroughly and carefully at the release than say OG classes like SMN and BLM. Having that said, a now seemingly OP rotation might not be accidentally there, but it actually might be a considered and tested rotation after all. Which then would imply other DPS classes lack some love, instead of the new guy/girl needing a nerf.
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