Please, NEVER nerf RDM!

[LunarEmerald]

You make a good point and all, my fear was that you know how people are.. "Oh that class is powerful, more then mine. I want it nerfed!" Those people are what scared me, that and all the "nerf this!" post already.

It's boring if everybody plays the same job because it's the best. When people switch from black mage or summoner just because red mage is better is quite bad. If things aren't changed then black mages and summoners will not be wanted in omega savage. It'll be 3.x paladin all over again.

[Vorx]

It's boring if everybody plays the same job because it's the best. When people switch from black mage or summoner just because red mage is better is quite bad. If things aren't changed then black mages and summoners will not be wanted in omega savage. It'll be 3.x paladin all over again.

That isn't in all wrong, but at the same time i don't see it happening. Black and Summoners have a few more skills that are more useful then RDMs have. I personally can only speak for Summoners since its the only other DPS class i was able to get into before RDM (tried the others, eh..) Anyway the summoners have the added party member pet which adds to the over all DPS and like RDM can heal and stuff making them just as useful. the only difference with RDM and Summoners is RDMs can rush in to be an extra melee if needed.
Summonsers also have all the pet skills like Ifrits fire claw and the Titan spirit incase Tank needs some help.

[LunarEmerald]

That isn't in all wrong, but at the same time i don't see it happening. Black and Summoners have a few more skills that are more useful then RDMs have. I personally can only speak for Summoners since its the only other DPS class i was able to get into before RDM (tried the others, eh..) Anyway the summoners have the added party member pet which adds to the over all DPS and like RDM can heal and stuff making them just as useful. the only difference with RDM and Summoners is RDMs can rush in to be an extra melee if needed.
Summonsers also have all the pet skills like Ifrits fire claw and the Titan spirit incase Tank needs some help.

What skills are those? If you say devotion, I will laugh. Contagion is good if there's more than one caster. Radiant Shield? I don't know. I'm not sure how that stacks up with embolden. When I played summoner, I never liked using Ifrit because it's way easier for it to die than Garuda.

Summoner's pet doesn't really add "extra dps" either, it just makes their dps on par with everybody else's. It's not like their pet is a special 5th dps. It's more like summoner is 0.5 dps and their pet is the other 0.5

[Vorx]

What skills are those? If you say devotion, I will laugh. Contagion is good if there's more than one caster. Radiant Shield? I don't know. I'm not sure how that stacks up with embolden. When I played summoner, I never liked using Ifrit because it's way easier for it to die than Garuda.

Summoner's pet doesn't really add "extra dps" either, it just makes their dps on par with everybody else's. It's not like their pet is a special 5th dps. It's more like summoner is 0.5 dps and their pet is the other 0.5

Not from what i seen, besides while the pet attacks if you choose to you could even help do other things, heal, revive, Summoners are still very useful.

[LunarEmerald]

Not from what i seen, besides while the pet attacks if you choose to you could even help do other things, heal, revive, Summoners are still very useful.

Physick doesn't count as a heal since it doesn't scale with int and red mage soundly beats summoner in the raise department because they essentially have infinite swiftcast.