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    Greedalox's Avatar
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    Blufnix Greedalox
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    Diabolos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vorx View Post
    You people just dunno a good class when you see it, that much you all made clear..
    The trick when dealing with class balance is to look at it objectively. RDM is much stronger in what it offers in personal damage and Utility for the team which makes it better than its competition.

    You're not looking at it objectively- you picked up a class you enjoy playing and don't want your class nerfed and are giving us the "Ya'll are duuumb, ya'll are stuuupid RDM is perfect where it is" when there's more to class balance than what YOU play.
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    Crysta Elizabeth
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Vorx View Post
    You people just dunno a good class when you see it, that much you all made clear..
    It sure is a good class, better than most others in fact, straight up.

    I'm not complaining the design of it, but some designs *may* be in order considering how much higher it really is - or is not.

    I am interested to see how savage is gonna turn out before I cry murder on anything. Other than a few obvious outliers, like mch and sch.
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    Karuru Karu
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    Shiva
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vorx View Post
    You people just dunno a good class when you see it, that much you all made clear..
    and you made clear you are a troll...

    if we don't see a good class in RDM, why would we want to nerf it? try harder next time...
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    Lunar Emerald
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Red Mage is too good compared to Black Mage and Summoner. Much easier to play, almost no penalty for screw ups, very mobile, has more utility and their damage is just as good if not higher.

    So either Red Mage needs to be nerfed a bit or the other two need to be buffed because as it stands Red Mage shits all over them which is bad for variety and game balance.
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    Estellise Valesti
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    Can't tell if bad troll or good troll...
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    Daiki Sejuro
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    Behemoth
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Coatl View Post
    But should RDM have lower DPS because it is easier to play? That will never be balanced correctly throughout all the classes. RDM should be doing less than BLM though by a larger margin.
    RDM would be if BLM was balanced properly....If the nerfed classes were balanced we would be fine but if the nerfed classes are balanced but they nerf the already balanced classes then all they are doing is switching places and then we will be back at square one :/ where some classes are good and others are awfu( MCH)
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    Ali Lifesaver
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Aomine1992 View Post
    RDM would be if BLM was balanced properly....If the nerfed classes were balanced we would be fine but if the nerfed classes are balanced but they nerf the already balanced classes then all they are doing is switching places and then we will be back at square one :/ where some classes are good and others are awfu( MCH)
    You're coming from the perception that RDM = well balanced and every other job is bad balanced, which isn't true. To balance all jobs they can't go with a buffing stick making everyone else stronger, that just creates power creep.
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    Ichi Greyfrost
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    Tonberry
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Vorx View Post
    You people just dunno a good class when you see it, that much you all made clear..
    It is because it is TOO GOOD that it outshines its brethren in Every. Single. Way.

    And btw, if you're casting RDM's spells longer than your gcd, you're doing it wrong. The only time this is allowed is precast pull.
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    Wynne Yilmaz
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    White Mage Lv 100


    Nothing to see here, just some forum bait.
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    I was the Almighty Enkidu for April Fools 2017.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beckett View Post
    To be fair, it's not so much a flame war as it's 12 pages of people agreeing the OP is an idiot.

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    Kori Fleming
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    Quote Originally Posted by magnanimousCynic View Post
    Nothing to see here, just some forum bait.
    Are people really this bad at knowing what's bait these days? This isn't bait, this is just someone who doesn't want his job nerfed and doesn't understand why it should be. Just because something doesn't make sense to you doesn't mean it's bait or that someone is trolling.
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