Please, NEVER nerf RDM!

[RaizeGraymalkin]

RDM/SAM remain safe and the salty tears continue to live another day. I am pleased by this.

[ShadowNyx3]

RDM/SAM remain safe and the salty tears continue to live another day. I am pleased by this.

I've seen this attitude all over the forums and it's really bugging me.

People have been laboring through up to four years of changes in play style and potency to jobs like BLM and SMN whereas RDM has been out for one month. Longtime devotees to the older classes have every right to make complaints and observations about their jobs and to be rightfully upset about them.

This smugness over these new jobs is just unnecessary. How can people be so devoted and attached to something they've been playing for a month that they are already kicking and screaming for it not to be nerfed? Just enjoy what you have while you have it because at some point every job is adjusted.

At this point though, no one is going to have any sympathy for SAMs and RDMs when that happens.

[TankHunter678]

RDM/SAM remain safe and the salty tears continue to live another day. I am pleased by this.

In case you failed to notice they did 2 very important bug fixes

An issue wherein the effects of the Red Mage ability Acceleration would apply to Verflare and Verholy.
An issue wherein the amount of black mana and white mana consumed would be incorrect when performing some of the Red Mage actions under certain conditions.

Meaning that the mana glitch is fixed and RDM wont be doing more DPS then they should be doing because they wont be bursting more often. We will now start to see just how RDM performs in its intended state.

[Zfz]

Indeed. I hope that the previous general idea of RDM being overpowered was just people abusing the glitch, knowingly or unknowingly.

I mean, having a simple job that is capable of just the same dps as other jobs is a plus for everyone. People who can't handle complex rotations will naturally gravitate toward the simple jobs, and why would one want them to underperform when they're in your party?

"You don't deserve that dps. I demand you get nerfed so we can all suffer."

[LakiSeven]

http://www.gamerevolution.com/guides...-list#/slide/1
I guess that's With the glitch? It's got some age to it but if it's true I dont get what people are complaining about really..
Some players like it more simple, some more complex. It shouldnt affect job performance/dps/healing power etc

[TankHunter678]

http://www.gamerevolution.com/guides...-list#/slide/1
I guess that's With the glitch? It's got some age to it but if it's true I dont get what people are complaining about really..
Some players like it more simple, some more complex. It shouldnt affect job performance/dps/healing power etc

There were some people doing 4801 and 4725 DPS with RDM at the top of their listings, beating out the equal standing BLMs and biting at the heels of SAM's top of the line.

[Firesped]

they did not nerf RDM, except for these exploits/bugs that were removed.

An issue wherein the hotbar icon would still look like the conditions for activating the Red Mage actions Verflare and Verholy were fulfilled even if the combo was canceled by performing another action.
An issue wherein the effects of the Red Mage ability Acceleration would apply to Verflare and Verholy.
An issue wherein the amount of black mana and white mana consumed would be incorrect when performing some of the Red Mage actions under certain conditions.
An issue wherein the Red Mage would start content with white mana remaining when queuing for content under certain conditions.

[LakiSeven]

There were some people doing 4801 and 4725 DPS with RDM at the top of their listings, beating out the equal standing BLMs and biting at the heels of SAM's top of the line.

I see. Do you happen to know if there are any newer dps charts done with equal gear/ilvl on a stationary target such as a dummy? Mechanics affect jobs output and would pretty much be different depending on encounter and player skill/mistakes

[Vexander]

I've seen this attitude all over the forums and it's really bugging me.

People have been laboring through up to four years of changes in play style and potency to jobs like BLM and SMN whereas RDM has been out for one month. Longtime devotees to the older classes have every right to make complaints and observations about their jobs and to be rightfully upset about them.

I've seen this attitude all over the forums as well.

Do you think RDMs are some influx of brand new players to the game? That no former BLMs/SMNs decided to play RDM and found they enjoyed it? That the new playstyle is vaguely familiar to the way BLM/SMN played in the old days? Simpler rotations that aren't anywhere near as convoluted?

Longtime devotees to BLM/SMN have every right to make observations about their jobs and to be rightfully upset about them. They have no right, however, to demand every other job be dragged down so they can compete, when the reality is that it is their jobs which need to be fixed. That's what bothers people defending RDM right now. The calls for nerfs are not made out of unbiased decisions reached by pure fact. They're made out of anger that the new caster isn't broken, that its balanced and works well for what it is; a DPS Caster.

My guess is Square agrees given the recent patch, focused on Balancing the classes, did not nerf RDM in the slightest. It fixed some bugs that some few RDMs were abusing, but the majority of RDMs aren't likely to notice the difference.

[Maero]

I agree with you Vexander. Red Mage as it stands is perfect and of course some will argue it is OP but really Savage is out now so we will actually see...
A job that is perfect should not get nerfed because SE messed up on the others in the same category, that does not address the underlying issue of blm and smn (moreso smn in this case).
So what people want Red Mage nerfed and then SE will call it a day saying all caster jobs are then balanced? Ask yourselves that.

Myself i have been a longtime blm but there was a few issues with the job itself and well.. i just find Red Mage more rewarding atm. Smn and blm have been excluded from groups i have also seen.