Please, NEVER nerf RDM!

[Elfidan]

So i'm seeing a lot of post on this getting nerfed or that, i just wanted to make a formal plea for RDMs, PLEASE, PLEASE,PLEASE!! Do NOT nerf RDM, EVER!
I hope this gets to devs somehow because as it stands they are near perfect, even without powering up a RDM melee is about the same as a Monk's normal damage, magic is OP but takes a while to cast the powerful stuff. A good balance. And we have light healing and revive. A great Jack of all Trade class and a true justice to how it always has been.
With all the nerfs and stuff going on please for all that is good do not do it to RDM.

It's a new job , and is very unlikely to be nerfed anytime soon. If anything did get adjusted it would most likely be dual-cast workings rather than damage directly. Being able to jolt raise, or heal with no down side may jar content difficulty slightly. I don't think players, or devs really have a problem with how rdm operates anyway so calm down.

[magnanimousCynic]

It's a new job , and is very unlikely to be nerfed anytime soon. If anything did get adjusted it would most likely be dual-cast workings rather than damage directly. Being able to jolt raise, or heal with no down side may jar content difficulty slightly. I don't think players, or devs really have a problem with how rdm operates anyway so calm down.

RDM isn't immune from nerfs just because it's new. NIN was introduced in 2.4 and got some noticable nerfs in 2.45 (TP increase to Aeolian Edge + Shadow Fang, Kiss buff applying to just physical damage, indirectly nerfing damage of Ninjutsu).

[Elfidan]

RDM isn't immune from nerfs just because it's new. NIN was introduced in 2.4 and got some noticable nerfs in 2.45 (TP increase to Aeolian Edge + Shadow Fang, Kiss buff applying to just physical damage).

Because they were beyond broken. They literally outed the top dps significantly on introduction. I'm not saying it won't happen it's just not likely. If anything gets the stick it'll be SAM. Heavy is the head that wears the crown after all...

[JunseiKei]

Because they were beyond broken. They literally outed the top dps significantly on introduction. I'm not saying it won't happen it's just not likely. If anything gets the stick it'll be SAM. Heavy is the head that wears the crown after all...

Pretty much this. RDMs still fall under the general amount of DPS as all the other classes, despite being easy to play. The only one really out there, and kind of way out there, is SAM. I truly expect something of theirs to get toned down, even if it's simply the potency of their DoT bringing them down a little bit, but still ahead of the others (because supposedly 0 utility).

RDMs feel perfect- great mobility second to Summoner. SMN has DoTs to keep up, but otherwise continuously deal damage with them along with a pet. They are middle ground of mobility between SMN and BLM.

Their DPS is middling in comparison. A BLM will do the highest damage, still, in a fight that requires very little movement. V1, Lakshmi, V2, V4 are all great examples of little movement and when you do need to move, you can plan ahead so you're already there and suffer minimal loss.

The biggest discrepancy I've noticed is people unable to separate player skill from job balance. RDMs have a lower skill floor than other casters, so it makes them seem a lot better than they really are.

[Vorx]

It's a new job , and is very unlikely to be nerfed anytime soon. If anything did get adjusted it would most likely be dual-cast workings rather than damage directly. Being able to jolt raise, or heal with no down side may jar content difficulty slightly. I don't think players, or devs really have a problem with how rdm operates anyway so calm down.

You make a good point and all, my fear was that you know how people are.. "Oh that class is powerful, more then mine. I want it nerfed!" Those people are what scared me, that and all the "nerf this!" post already.

[LunarEmerald]

You make a good point and all, my fear was that you know how people are.. "Oh that class is powerful, more then mine. I want it nerfed!" Those people are what scared me, that and all the "nerf this!" post already.

It's boring if everybody plays the same job because it's the best. When people switch from black mage or summoner just because red mage is better is quite bad. If things aren't changed then black mages and summoners will not be wanted in omega savage. It'll be 3.x paladin all over again.

[Vorx]

It's boring if everybody plays the same job because it's the best. When people switch from black mage or summoner just because red mage is better is quite bad. If things aren't changed then black mages and summoners will not be wanted in omega savage. It'll be 3.x paladin all over again.

That isn't in all wrong, but at the same time i don't see it happening. Black and Summoners have a few more skills that are more useful then RDMs have. I personally can only speak for Summoners since its the only other DPS class i was able to get into before RDM (tried the others, eh..) Anyway the summoners have the added party member pet which adds to the over all DPS and like RDM can heal and stuff making them just as useful. the only difference with RDM and Summoners is RDMs can rush in to be an extra melee if needed.
Summonsers also have all the pet skills like Ifrits fire claw and the Titan spirit incase Tank needs some help.

[LunarEmerald]

That isn't in all wrong, but at the same time i don't see it happening. Black and Summoners have a few more skills that are more useful then RDMs have. I personally can only speak for Summoners since its the only other DPS class i was able to get into before RDM (tried the others, eh..) Anyway the summoners have the added party member pet which adds to the over all DPS and like RDM can heal and stuff making them just as useful. the only difference with RDM and Summoners is RDMs can rush in to be an extra melee if needed.
Summonsers also have all the pet skills like Ifrits fire claw and the Titan spirit incase Tank needs some help.

What skills are those? If you say devotion, I will laugh. Contagion is good if there's more than one caster. Radiant Shield? I don't know. I'm not sure how that stacks up with embolden. When I played summoner, I never liked using Ifrit because it's way easier for it to die than Garuda.

Summoner's pet doesn't really add "extra dps" either, it just makes their dps on par with everybody else's. It's not like their pet is a special 5th dps. It's more like summoner is 0.5 dps and their pet is the other 0.5

[DatPotato]

You make it sounds like people are acting as jealous kids. But so far, they aren't they even gives arguments as for why they think it needs some tweaks. Seriously, don't ignore their opinion because for once it's à thread where people are polite and civilized. And besides, it's up to SE. Afterall because it's à new class it might get nerf once they see the classes got their playerbase

[Hitsuzen]

What if they left RDM alone and just buffed every non RDM dps far past RDM?