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  1. #21
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    Ichi Greyfrost
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vorx View Post
    You people just dunno a good class when you see it, that much you all made clear..
    It is because it is TOO GOOD that it outshines its brethren in Every. Single. Way.

    And btw, if you're casting RDM's spells longer than your gcd, you're doing it wrong. The only time this is allowed is precast pull.
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    Wynne Yilmaz
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    Nothing to see here, just some forum bait.
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    I was the Almighty Enkidu for April Fools 2017.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beckett View Post
    To be fair, it's not so much a flame war as it's 12 pages of people agreeing the OP is an idiot.

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    Ali Lifesaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aomine1992 View Post
    RDM would be if BLM was balanced properly....If the nerfed classes were balanced we would be fine but if the nerfed classes are balanced but they nerf the already balanced classes then all they are doing is switching places and then we will be back at square one :/ where some classes are good and others are awfu( MCH)
    You're coming from the perception that RDM = well balanced and every other job is bad balanced, which isn't true. To balance all jobs they can't go with a buffing stick making everyone else stronger, that just creates power creep.
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  4. #24
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    Elfidan Gadfor
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vorx View Post
    So i'm seeing a lot of post on this getting nerfed or that, i just wanted to make a formal plea for RDMs, PLEASE, PLEASE,PLEASE!! Do NOT nerf RDM, EVER!
    I hope this gets to devs somehow because as it stands they are near perfect, even without powering up a RDM melee is about the same as a Monk's normal damage, magic is OP but takes a while to cast the powerful stuff. A good balance. And we have light healing and revive. A great Jack of all Trade class and a true justice to how it always has been.
    With all the nerfs and stuff going on please for all that is good do not do it to RDM.
    It's a new job , and is very unlikely to be nerfed anytime soon. If anything did get adjusted it would most likely be dual-cast workings rather than damage directly. Being able to jolt raise, or heal with no down side may jar content difficulty slightly. I don't think players, or devs really have a problem with how rdm operates anyway so calm down.
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    Buff Blackmage
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    If there was a downvote button I'd be pressing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfidan View Post
    It's a new job , and is very unlikely to be nerfed anytime soon. If anything did get adjusted it would most likely be dual-cast workings rather than damage directly. Being able to jolt raise, or heal with no down side may jar content difficulty slightly. I don't think players, or devs really have a problem with how rdm operates anyway so calm down.
    RDM isn't immune from nerfs just because it's new. NIN was introduced in 2.4 and got some noticable nerfs in 2.45 (TP increase to Aeolian Edge + Shadow Fang, Kiss buff applying to just physical damage, indirectly nerfing damage of Ninjutsu).
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    I was the Almighty Enkidu for April Fools 2017.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beckett View Post
    To be fair, it's not so much a flame war as it's 12 pages of people agreeing the OP is an idiot.

  6. #26
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    Elfidan Gadfor
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    Quote Originally Posted by magnanimousCynic View Post
    RDM isn't immune from nerfs just because it's new. NIN was introduced in 2.4 and got some noticable nerfs in 2.45 (TP increase to Aeolian Edge + Shadow Fang, Kiss buff applying to just physical damage).
    Because they were beyond broken. They literally outed the top dps significantly on introduction. I'm not saying it won't happen it's just not likely. If anything gets the stick it'll be SAM. Heavy is the head that wears the crown after all...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commander_Justitia View Post
    Buff Blackmage
    Quote Originally Posted by Nikoto View Post
    If there was a downvote button I'd be pressing it.

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    Vorx Dargo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfidan View Post
    It's a new job , and is very unlikely to be nerfed anytime soon. If anything did get adjusted it would most likely be dual-cast workings rather than damage directly. Being able to jolt raise, or heal with no down side may jar content difficulty slightly. I don't think players, or devs really have a problem with how rdm operates anyway so calm down.
    You make a good point and all, my fear was that you know how people are.. "Oh that class is powerful, more then mine. I want it nerfed!" Those people are what scared me, that and all the "nerf this!" post already.
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vorx View Post
    You make a good point and all, my fear was that you know how people are.. "Oh that class is powerful, more then mine. I want it nerfed!" Those people are what scared me, that and all the "nerf this!" post already.
    It's boring if everybody plays the same job because it's the best. When people switch from black mage or summoner just because red mage is better is quite bad. If things aren't changed then black mages and summoners will not be wanted in omega savage. It'll be 3.x paladin all over again.
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    Hazelmine Eynmoenwyn
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    You make it sounds like people are acting as jealous kids. But so far, they aren't they even gives arguments as for why they think it needs some tweaks. Seriously, don't ignore their opinion because for once it's à thread where people are polite and civilized. And besides, it's up to SE. Afterall because it's à new class it might get nerf once they see the classes got their playerbase
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    It's boring if everybody plays the same job because it's the best. When people switch from black mage or summoner just because red mage is better is quite bad. If things aren't changed then black mages and summoners will not be wanted in omega savage. It'll be 3.x paladin all over again.
    That isn't in all wrong, but at the same time i don't see it happening. Black and Summoners have a few more skills that are more useful then RDMs have. I personally can only speak for Summoners since its the only other DPS class i was able to get into before RDM (tried the others, eh..) Anyway the summoners have the added party member pet which adds to the over all DPS and like RDM can heal and stuff making them just as useful. the only difference with RDM and Summoners is RDMs can rush in to be an extra melee if needed.
    Summonsers also have all the pet skills like Ifrits fire claw and the Titan spirit incase Tank needs some help.
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