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    Vorx's Avatar
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    Vorx Dargo
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    Please, NEVER nerf RDM!

    So i'm seeing a lot of post on this getting nerfed or that, i just wanted to make a formal plea for RDMs, PLEASE, PLEASE,PLEASE!! Do NOT nerf RDM, EVER!
    I hope this gets to devs somehow because as it stands they are near perfect, even without powering up a RDM melee is about the same as a Monk's normal damage, magic is OP but takes a while to cast the powerful stuff. A good balance. And we have light healing and revive. A great Jack of all Trade class and a true justice to how it always has been.
    With all the nerfs and stuff going on please for all that is good do not do it to RDM.
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    Selena Zensh
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    Takes awhile to cast a powerful spell?

    What do you think Jolt is for? Its for bypassing long cast times with the dual cast system.
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    Xetsu Mitsuhara
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    Do you even Jolt?
    Quote Originally Posted by Hazuki87 View Post
    I'm sure he talking About our verflear and verholy spells....
    He's 66 RDM. He doesn't even have them.
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    Last edited by Mikhaill; 07-14-2017 at 12:51 PM.

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    Kira Matsumoto
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikhaill View Post
    Do you even Jolt?

    He's 66 RDM. He doesn't even have them.
    I'm a lv70 RDM and you can't see that, so for all you know that not his main toon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazuki87 View Post
    I'm a lv70 RDM and you can't see that, so for all you know that not his main toon.
    According to his response, he was probably referring the other spells, which do have a long cast time.
    RDM needs a tweak somewhere. How is it fair when they're one of the easiest jobs, the better DPS,
    support and stuff when BLM suffers because of the constant AoE dancing and still
    give out less damage when it's a hard to master job? It's outclassed by RDM.
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    O'siris Nunh
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Blm is a 123 Job just like most, and I Have not played in a party yet where I've been out dps'd By a Red Mage. The Blm doesn't have mobilty/utility because of how high its dps is and even then people forget scathe is a move for moves, Red mage's balance is the lack of mp regen without cross role, Blm has lucid, convert and umbral... Smn has lucid, energy, and aether... It's a dps loss if a Red mage heals or raises and if you never seen one get rezzed with Ld On cool Down Know this They Are Screwed Unlessed There's An unlikely party member with mana shift and nice enough to feed the poor, I'm with the op in saying I wish people would stop crying and play their jobs
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    Wynne Yilmaz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syrus718 View Post
    Blm is a 123 Job just like most, and I Have not played in a party yet where I've been out dps'd By a Red Mage.
    Maybe you haven't, but FFlogs shows RDM doing better DPS than BLM in Susano/Lakshmi EX at all percentiles but 99th+ for Lakshmi EX.

    Quote Originally Posted by Syrus718 View Post
    The Blm doesn't have mobilty/utility because of how high its dps is and even then people forget scathe is a move for moves
    If BLM doesn't have mobility then what is Aetherial Manipulation and Between the Lines? Again, RDM beats BLM in the 4.0 EX primals at almost all percentiles.

    Scathe's damage is minuscule compared to our Fire spells when you factor in the AF damage multiplier. If you're trying to do the 4.0 rotation you flat-out can't use Scathe or you lose a F4 due to not enough MP.

    Quote Originally Posted by Syrus718 View Post
    Red mage's balance is the lack of mp regen without cross role
    RDM can last a good while without LD. You only need it for Susano/Lakshmi EX, but even then you're not exactly given a lot of good Role Action choices with Break/Drain/Surecast/Erase being too niche for general use. If you don't want to take Mana Shift due to MP concerns then you only have 5 choices left for RDM Role Actions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Syrus718 View Post
    Blm has lucid, convert and umbral
    BLM use LD for enmity reduction, not MP regen (which doesn't work in AF). Convert is used for additional F4s, not to help with MP regen. Most BLM consider Convert a DPS cooldown, not an MP cooldown.

    I'm not touching SMN since I haven't played them in a while to have an accurate opinion on their MP issues.

    Quote Originally Posted by Syrus718 View Post
    if you never seen one get rezzed with Ld On cool Down Know this They Are Screwed Unlessed There's An unlikely party member with mana shift and nice enough to feed the poor
    You mean like how Melee DPS are screwed if they don't have Invigorate ready along with someone to give them Goad? Every Job but BLM suffers in resources after a death, RDM isn't special here.
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    Last edited by magnanimousCynic; 07-15-2017 at 04:47 AM.

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    We all know the work around but internally its setup in such a way it justifies being OP, you trolls just wait for any little thing to jump like freakin' frogs huh?
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    Blufnix Greedalox
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vorx View Post
    We all know the work around but internally its setup in such a way it justifies being OP, you trolls just wait for any little thing to jump like freakin' frogs huh?
    Front page and immediately calls people trolls for disagreeing with his assessment. :thinking:
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    I'm sure he talking About our verflear and verholy spells....
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