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    Take it easy, Tanks.

    I've started to get a hang out of healing since I returned from my break. However, holy crap on pulling 3-4 packs of mobs then darting ahead. I try my hardest not to cast regen on you pre trash pull but when you are sinking faster then Katy Perry's career then slow down a bit.

    I know most of you have done these dungeons many times. However, be courteous and look out for those who are just returning to the game. I have had only two wipes, thankfully. However, slow it down a bit. Especially in the new dungeons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsai View Post
    I've started to get a hang out of healing since I returned from my break. However, holy crap on pulling 3-4 packs of mobs then darting ahead. I try my hardest not to cast regen on you pre trash pull but when you are sinking faster then Katy Perry's career then slow down a bit.

    I know most of you have done these dungeons many times. However, be courteous and look out for those who are just returning to the game. I have had only two wipes, thankfully. However, slow it down a bit. Especially in the new dungeons.
    cant do it ha , 3 add pulls are just a waste of time ha
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    S/he wasn't asking for a 3-add pull. And yeah, such a waste of time... that 30 additional seconds. I completely understand where s/he is coming from. There's a difference in pulling several groups at a time and darting off to the first gate -- especially now that the concept of defensive cooldowns eludes a majority of tanks in dungeons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novak_04 View Post
    S/he wasn't asking for a 3-add pull. And yeah, such a waste of time... that 30 additional seconds. I completely understand where s/he is coming from. There's a difference in pulling several groups at a time and darting off to the first gate -- especially now that the concept of defensive cooldowns eludes a majority of tanks in dungeons.
    That's a large portion of my complaint is the huge number of tanks who don't use defensive cooldowns. Not my full complaint but I big portion of frustration. I like to use my cards, frequently. Also, contributing to the DPS. However, if I have spend every global cooldown to keep you alive then it's time to rethink and form a better strategy.
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    If I slow down, you might be fine with it, the next guy will want me to go faster. The guy after him will want a slower pace than you...

    If you want control over how much is pulled, the best way of doing that is to queue as tank.
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    A solution for this isn't "just pull everything." I'm not saying you do that, but as most healers will tell you, it's a common occurrence. For the most part, this isn't an issue as long as a tank knows how to use those little buttons with the tooltips that read "reduces damage taken." My biggest complaint with tanks so far this expansion is their god-complex. All too often I get tanks with strength accessories that go ham in sword oath, deliverance, or without grit on, then use a total of 0 defensive cool downs on top of that. It's frustrating as a healer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novak_04 View Post
    A solution for this isn't "just pull everything." I'm not saying you do that, but as most healers will tell you, it's a common occurrence. For the most part, this isn't an issue as long as a tank knows how to use those little buttons with the tooltips that read "reduces damage taken." My biggest complaint with tanks so far this expansion is their god-complex. All too often I get tanks with strength accessories that go ham in sword oath, deliverance, or without grit on, then use a total of 0 defensive cool downs on top of that. It's frustrating as a healer.
    Exactly! Those who do use the cooldowns I thank you very much, personally. It can get hectic and not very fun as a healer if I miss a single global cooldown then you are about to die. Sometimes I have used Combust just see that the tank's health bar has dropped down below half in a single global. I then have to work extra hard to bring you up and keep you up. I would love to use more then heals in a dungeon and contribute more to DPS or buffs. However, lately it's just been about keeping the tank alive because everything most be pulled right this second.
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    Last edited by Delsai; 07-14-2017 at 09:11 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsai View Post
    Exactly! Those who do use the cooldowns I t
    what tanks should do in dungeons is what i try to do plan ur pulls around using hologround, living dead, hologang i think thats another issue as well because it makes things easier on everyone but many dont bother using them. I try to plan my pulls around it if I still die then I consider that not my fault its to hard accommodating all the time its best to come with your play style first and if it doesnt work then do the slow pulls
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novak_04 View Post
    A solution for this isn't "just pull everything." I'm not saying you do that, but as most healers will tell you, it's a common occurrence. For the most part, this isn't an issue as long as a tank knows how to use those little buttons with the tooltips that read "reduces damage taken." My biggest complaint with tanks so far this expansion is their god-complex. All too often I get tanks with strength accessories that go ham in sword oath, deliverance, or without grit on, then use a total of 0 defensive cool downs on top of that. It's frustrating as a healer.
    Follow this up with that most DPS you'll run into are actively allergic to their AoE skills (what few SMNs there are being the exception)
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    Quote Originally Posted by winsock View Post
    If I slow down, you might be fine with it, the next guy will want me to go faster. The guy after him will want a slower pace than you...

    If you want control over how much is pulled, the best way of doing that is to queue as tank.
    Or the healer could let you drop to the floor to the adds. You're not going to pull a lot of it if you're going to die every time it happens...and the healer decides who lives or dies.
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